Windows 10: Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD

Discus and support Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; I ordered the adaptor a while ago, but I'm sorely tempted to just velcro the SSD to the floor of my case, as I've seen so many others do. Using an... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by Foebane72, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Foebane72 Win User

    Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD


    I ordered the adaptor a while ago, but I'm sorely tempted to just velcro the SSD to the floor of my case, as I've seen so many others do.

    Using an adaptor like that is a convoluted idea, anyway: I'd have to take the SSD and screw it to a piece of metal, then screw that piece of metal into the PC case (opening both side covers as well to do so), when really, I could just secure the SSD with velcro in an openly-accessible part of the case and just remove and replace it if I needed to, no hassle.

    1. Don't modern PC cases do away with 3.5" and 5.25" bays? They should do, because if you're going to insist on using HDDs, then 2.5" HDDs are identical in operation and capacity to 3.5" HDDs, but they're smaller and take up less space. And as for 5.25" bays, those are only used for ODDs, and who the heck uses those these days? I use one, but it's external, which is much better.

    2. Why hasn't anyone developed a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter where the SDDs can simply be slotted into place, rather than screwed in? You could fit at least two SSDs in something like that. Looks like an untapped market there, and what's more, the adapter can remain screwed in forever.
     
    Foebane72, Nov 5, 2017
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  2. NavyLCDR New Member

    But you might want to consider getting a cheap bracket for the SSD, and then two-sided tape or Velcro the bracket holding the SSD to the case. That way the tape is not applied to the SSD itself, it will be applied to the bracket.
     
    NavyLCDR, Nov 5, 2017
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  3. Foebane72 Win User
    AddRAM said there's no need to worry about a bit of velcro tape voiding warranty (#25).
     
    Foebane72, Nov 5, 2017
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  4. NavyLCDR New Member

    Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD

    NavyLCDR, Nov 5, 2017
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  5. Foebane72 Win User
    I stand corrected, Navy. *Smile
     
    Foebane72, Nov 5, 2017
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  6. Foebane72 Win User
    I've decided to use the brackets I already have, and screw it in on both sides, but I am worried about turning the case over so that the mobo is at the top and the Nvidia card hangs down, so I can reach the other side which is recessed and is not easy when upright.

    Am I risking the mobo by having the Nvidia card hanging from it? It's clipped in on the inner side but I'm not so sure about the screws on the outer side.
     
    Foebane72, Nov 5, 2017
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  7. Steve C Win User
    The GPU clips into the PCI socket and there should also be 1 or 2 screws fastening it to the rear frame. I don't see a problem
     
    Steve C, Nov 5, 2017
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  8. Foebane72 Win User

    Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD

    There is a problem with the holes that those screws go into, in that no screws I try tighten at all. I think I damaged the metal rear frame a long time ago, so for all I know, the screws will just slip out, along with the card.
     
    Foebane72, Nov 5, 2017
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  9. Steve C Win User
    Use a nut & bolt then to secure the card!
     
    Steve C, Nov 6, 2017
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  10. Foebane72 Win User
    I'm going to buy the SSD today, but I have a question about the Windows 10 media, as created by MediaCreationTool: how much faster is a USB version as opposed to an ISO (DVD) version? I've never tried installing an OS from USB before, so today would be a good time.

    Do I just let MediaCreationTool write the files to the USB and then boot from USB? Do I need to format the USB a specific way? Any BIOS settings?
     
    Foebane72, Nov 6, 2017
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  11. Steve C Win User
    The Media Creation Tool will wipe the USB stick and copy the files to it - all you have to do is plug it in. No BIOS changes are needed but you need to use the boot override key for your PC when you boot to select the USB stick to boot from. Else see Option 1 here Boot from USB Drive on Windows 10 PC

    Installing from a USB stick will be slightly faster overall than a DVD - note the difference in the time taken for the initial copy files stage doesn't make much difference to the overall installation time. Installation is very quick if your PC has a SSD!
     
    Steve C, Nov 6, 2017
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  12. Foebane72 Win User
    I am now on Win10 Pro on an SSD, and the difference is certainly faster!

    What happens with things like Drive Defragmenter? Will it run or not?
     
    Foebane72, Nov 6, 2017
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  13. CountMike New Member

    Installing Windows 10 on HDD, then on SSD

    It will only trim SSD.
     
    CountMike, Nov 6, 2017
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  14. Hi,
    10 uses trim they just didn't bother to reword the operation.
    Don't worry about it.
    Use the ssd's utility if a samsung use samsung magician to update the ssd's firmware....
     
    ThrashZone, Nov 6, 2017
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  15. Foebane72 Win User
    There was a couple of things during the install:

    1. The 3.5" adapter didn't quite reach the sides of the bay, and the screws provided were too small, so I used the screws I already had (larger thread) to screw both sides in. Now I'm worried that I may have caused metal filings from when I screwed them in (which was hard), but I can't easily find out.

    2. When I connected the SATA power, I think I bent it upwards for a moment and there was a little crick/crack sound, and I figured I may have damaged the connector on the Samsung. It IS the weakest part of the drive, isn't it? But it seems to be fine for now, so I guess I'm worrying over nothing.
     
    Foebane72, Nov 6, 2017
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