Windows 10: Intel programs

Discus and support Intel programs in Windows 10 Software and Apps to solve the problem; Could someone explain me what exactly Intel Rapid Storage Technology and the Intel Management Engine does? I have tried looking on intels website and... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Software and Apps' started by Cerawy, Sep 3, 2017.

  1. Cerawy Win User

    Intel programs


    Could someone explain me what exactly Intel Rapid Storage Technology and the Intel Management Engine does? I have tried looking on intels website and to be honest I don't get it. Do I need these drivers and why?

    Solution: they offer almost nothing for most desktop users, and should be uninstalled.

    :)
     
    Cerawy, Sep 3, 2017
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  2. Rohn007 Win User

    Windows 10, version 1709 after update Some programs not operational

    Are you on 1709 or 1703? You have mentioned both.

    It sounds like MS reset an "environment" variable back to default. Windows uses environment variables as shortcuts. Windows associates the long version with the shortcut then uses the shortcut elsewhere. For example

    %programfiles%

    expands to "C:\Program Files"

    The easiest one to fix is "Path". it lists all of the places Windows should check for your program files.

    For example, here is my path:

    C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\Program Files\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R)
    Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program
    Files\Intel\WiFi\bin\;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Intel\WirelessCommon\;C:\Program Files\Calibre2\;C:\Users\Luser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps;

    Updating your path to point to those other locations should fix your problem, I think. It's been a VERY long time since I've played with it.
     
    Rohn007, Sep 3, 2017
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  3. What is USER_ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE?

    Active code page: 437 --------------------------------------------- DEBUG:.....................................[YES] EXECUTE:...................................[YES] USE_ADDRESSING:............................[YES] ADDRESSING:................................[64]
    VERSION:...................................[6] --------------------------------------------- INSTALL_DIR:...............................[C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV] PORT:......................................[49330] USER_PORT:.................................[49331]
    DELAY:.....................................[PT30S] USE_SCHEDULED_TASK:........................[YES] --------------------------------------------- DEPENDENCY_KEY:............................[SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE] DEPENDENCY_VALUE:..........................[run]
    DEPENDENCY:................................[--depend_on_key SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE --depend_on_value run] --------------------------------------------- RUN_MODE_TO_TOGGLE:........................[NO] RUN_MODE:..................................[]
    DCTL:......................................[SUMMARIZE] PAUSE_TIME:................................[5000] WATCHDOG_SAMPLE_MULTIPLIER:................[10] WATCHDOG_MAX_CPU_USAGE_PERCENTAGE_0_100:...[50] --------------------------------------------- TIMING:....................................[no]
    OUTPUT:....................................[w] USER_OUTPUT:...............................[no] OUTPUT_DIR:................................[C:\ProgramData\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\IntelData] USER_OUTPUT_DIR:...........................[C:\ProgramData\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\IntelData\userlogs]
    LIMIT_OUTPUT_BY:...........................[time] OUTPUT_LIMIT:..............................[3600000] OUTPUT_BUFFER:.............................[1024] --------------------------------------------- BATTERY_IL:................................[il='C:\Program
    Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\acpi_battery_input.dll'] THERMAL_IL:................................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\sema_thermal_input.dll'] WIFI_IL:...................................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\wifi_input.dll']
    FOREGROUND_IL:.............................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\foreground_window_input.dll'] DEVICES_USE_IL:............................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\devices_use_input.dll','service=yes'] DISK_TRACE_IL:.............................[il='C:\Program
    Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_disktrace_input.dll','pause=60000 working_dir=C:\ProgramData\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\IntelData override_existing_tracing=no limit_output_by_filesize_mb=10'] QNR_IL:....................................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_quality_and_reliability_input.dll']
    PROC_IN_IL:................................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_process_input.dll','process_input_options.txt'] --------------------------------------------- ESRV_SVC_ILS:..............................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_process_input.dll','process_input_options.txt'
    il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_system_power_state_input.dll' il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_quality_and_reliability_input.dll' il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\acpi_battery_input.dll' il='C:\Program
    Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\sema_thermal_input.dll' il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\wifi_input.dll' il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\devices_use_input.dll','service=yes' il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_disktrace_input.dll','pause=60000
    working_dir=C:\ProgramData\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\IntelData override_existing_tracing=no limit_output_by_filesize_mb=10' os='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\os_counters.txt'] USER_ESRV_SVC_ILS:.........................[il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\foreground_window_input.dll']
    --------------------------------------------- Will continue in 1 seconds X S COMMAND=[sc config ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE start= delayed-auto] [SC] ChangeServiceConfig SUCCESS Waiting for 1 seconds, press a key to continue ...0 COMMAND=[sc config USER_ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE
    start= demand] [SC] ChangeServiceConfig SUCCESS Waiting for 1 seconds, press a key to continue ...0 COMMAND=[schtasks /change /tn USER_ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE /ENABLE] INFO: Scheduled task "USER_ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE" has already been enabled. SUCCESS: The parameters
    of scheduled task "USER_ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE" have been changed. Waiting for 1 seconds, press a key to continue ...0 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMAND=["C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\esrv_svc.exe"
    --start] Starting The ESRV Service.[OK] Waiting for 5 seconds, press a key to continue ...43210 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- COMMAND=["C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\esrv_svc.exe" --start --run_as_user_process
    --register_port --address 127.0.0.1 --port 49331 --pause_on_user_switching --depend_on_key SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\ESRV_SVC_WILLAMETTE --depend_on_value run --time_in_ms --pause 5000 --library "C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\intel_modeler.dll"
    --no_pl --watchdog 10 --watchdog_cpu_usage_limit 50 --end_on_error --kernel_priority_boost --shutdown_priority_boost --device_options " time=no output=no output_folder='C:\ProgramData\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\IntelData\userlogs' limit_output_by=time output_limit=3600000
    output_buffer=1024 il='C:\Program Files\Intel\SUR\WILLAMETTE\ESRV\foreground_window_input.dll' "] Starting The ESRV Service.[OK] Waiting for 5 seconds, press a key to continue ...43210 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    FreelanceEditor, Sep 3, 2017
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  4. Gordon7 Win User

    Intel programs

    Gordon7, Sep 4, 2017
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  5. Gordon7 Win User
  6. Cerawy Win User
    that just makes me more confused.. im just looking for a simple explanation
     
    Cerawy, Sep 4, 2017
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  7. lx07 Win User
    You don't need any Intel drivers except the display.

    RST you don't need - it is a disk device driver (MS included one is better usually)

    IME runs on a second processor and allows remote access even when your PC is shutdown. You can remove the driver (the interface to this) but you can't get rid of the security issue at all unless you get a PC built before about 2010.

    See Red alert! Intel patches remote execution hole that's been hidden in chips since 2010
     
    lx07, Sep 4, 2017
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  8. Cerawy Win User

    Intel programs

    Ok, I don't need that feature so I'm uninstalling IME. That was simple and easy to understand.

    Do you mean graphics drivers? I already got nvidias display drivers installed.

    I just read about it on intels website, where it says:

    Intel® Rapid Storage Technology offers greater levels of performance, responsiveness, and expandability than ever before. Whether you are using one or multiple serial ATA (SATA) or PCIe drives, you can take advantage of enhanced performance and lower power consumption from the latest storage technologies. Additionally, you can rest easy knowing you have added protection against data loss in the event of a hard drive failure.

    Seems like a good thing? Although it didn't protect my data when windows crashed and I don't see any perfomance difference with this program installed.
     
    Cerawy, Sep 11, 2017
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  9. f14tomcat Win User
    Simply having it installed without using any of the options to configure performance/storage will most likely not buy you much. Take a few minutes to go thru the options and see if any of them can be used to your benefit. Not all options apply to all systems, depends on your config. You've got a decent CPU and a fast SSD, so major noticeable leaps in performance can't really be expected. You need to tinker with it a bit, and do some research.

    http://download.intel.com/support/ch...user_guide.pdf


    Intel programs [​IMG]
     
    f14tomcat, Sep 11, 2017
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  10. lx07 Win User
    Then you don't need their display driver either. I don't have a separate GPU so I have to use the built in Intel one.

    Intel (via Windows Update) have a habit of installing stuff you don't need.

    FWIW I also disable these services (under services.msc) which seem to add no value either.

    • Intel(R) Content Protection HECI Service - enables communication with the Content Protection FW
    • Service for Intel(R) HD Graphics Control Panel
    • Intel(R) Integrated Clock Controller Service - Intel(R) ICCS
     
  11. Cerawy Win User
    Thanks, will check it out.
     
    Cerawy, Sep 11, 2017
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  12. Cerawy Win User
    I spent some time messing around with it. The only option I found was to activate/deactivate something called link power management, which saves power. I don't see anything else I can change. I also don't seem to have the same options as you. Most of my SSD settings has been optimized by wisecleaner.

    http://peecee.dk/uploads/092017/Udklip2.PNG
     
    Cerawy, Sep 11, 2017
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  13. lx07 Win User

    Intel programs

    There is no point playing with SSD optimization. The firmware (or Windows) will do it for you.

    Was that Hollandic by the way?
     
  14. Cerawy Win User
    I'm not really sure if I should keep the program.

    From intel's website:

    Product Overview for Intel® Rapid Storage Technology

    Can Intel RST assist me with single drives too?
    Through AHCI, storage performance is improved with Native Command Queuing (NCQ). AHCI also delivers longer battery life with Link Power Management (LPM), which can reduce the power consumption of the chipset and Serial ATA (SATA) hard drive.

    Sounds like this is something that would be more beneficial for laptops.
     
    Cerawy, Sep 11, 2017
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  15. lx07 Win User
    I told you my opinion - no Intel programs are beneficial. I have seen (but not experienced) RST causing boot problems.

    The only valid response I could give would be to suggest to google it, test it and keep it if you want.

    Personally I'd remove it and only install it if it was required for something.
     
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