Windows 10: Intel should be very worried about AMD's Ryzen 7 processors

Far too early to say exactly what will happen, a lot will depend on how the things perform in the real world compared to lab tests.

 

Micro Center has cut prices on a good number of the better Intel processors, some deep cuts too.........but they are for in-store pickup only so if you live close enough to one of their stores you could take advantage now.......

 

Well, if you don't need top of the line Intel to compete with the AMD's, then the cost difference won't be as much. I don't want to say, "I have the most powerful chip AMD makes", I would rather say "My chip is faster than that chip"

 

Intel would have to literally decimate prices to get them down to AMD levels (here in Australia).

At my normal parts supplier (most expensive CPU):

• Intel i7-6950X (~$2300)
• AMD FX-8350 (~$230)

 

True. Most people equate Intel to quality and reliability and lower thermals. One generation of chips won't change this mindset amongst people and like you mentioned, most people might actually buy the price reduced Intel CPU instead of AMD.

 

They have always done this, nothing special, and especially nothing to do with AMD's release of Rhyzen.

 

You can't seriously equate a 6950X and an 8350. Nobody looking for either one would consider the other one as an alternative. Having said that, the 6950X is well out of the price range for most people, no matter where you live.

 

I've actually been thinking about this. Let start with some basic truths... how many actually run Intel's 6 or 8-core processors vs the standard 4-core i7? If we look just within tenforums I'd guess maybe 20 percent run 6-8 core processors. So, that now leaves 80 percent running i7, i5 & i3 processors. So, let’s say only 5 percent run i3’s. That leaves 65 percent of us (me included – i7) running i7’s and 15s. BTW these numbers are a wild guess, but empirical evidence says they’re about right.

With that we’re looking at about 75 percent of the community running i7/i5 processors. This is the bulk of Intel’s sales to the consumer market. Now, when we look at the i7/i5 chip prices they all under $400 bucks and currently perform just as well if not better than AMD’s $500 ($499) dollar R7 1800X chip. Here’s a current look at the Skylake i7/i5 prices (Newegg). BTW we can see Intel has already dropped prices…

• I7-6700K - $309.99
• I7-6700 - $314.99 (why this is priced higher, I’ve no idea)
• I5-6600K - $239.99
• I5-6600 - $219.99
• And here’s the i7-7700K Kaby lake processor at $349.99

Well, if I’m a gamer, and reading the Ryzen reviews, those Intel prices look damn good compared to any of the Ryzen chips – $499.99 (R7 1800X); $399.99 (R7 1700X); $349.99 (R7 1800). And they perform better in gaming!

Where’s the real price advantage? Yeah, you get an 8-core chip for a really good price, but for gamers (were the chips really count), there’s nothing there to make me say AMD. And for the everyday i3, 5, and 7 user where 8-cores mean nothing there, now you’re paying higher prices for an AMD chip! Given Intel's brand name It seems all they had to do was drop prices below AMD, and wholla, all is good in Intel land. What advantage!?!?!

With that, If AMD wants to win this battle, they’d better fix their gaming performance quick or it’s lights out!

My two cents.

 

Well.....one thing is for sure.....AMD has us all talking about the state of things......LOL

If the game producers do start optimizing games for the AMD processors as some of them say they are then things might all equal out but for now if you are mainly a gamer then Intel is probably your best bet.......

 

Even if you aren't a gamer, given the lower prices coupled with Intel's brand name puts AMD in a corner. Especially for those of us in the know. AMD better get it together quick.

 

Thats like saying that a Mercedes-Benz is very expensive compared to a Honda. Mercedes-Benz doesn't have to decimate prices to compete with Honda.

What is your price on a core i5-6600k in australia. Bet its around $350. Where is your massive savings now.

You cannot just say well here is the most expensive Intel chip I can find. That would be like comparing the highest level Benz to the highest level Toyota. It doesn't make sense to compare the two.

 

Yeah, I am not feeling the Ryzen. It's likely another hype train. "If" everybody retools for a miniscule percentage of the market share, we might really have something special. Why will others bother to overhaul their games for AMD architecture?

 

For most casual gamers would be FPS/$$ ratio.

 

Ond one more point:
Microsoft works closely with Intel*Wink
For example, the 4K Netflix streaming and the newer Kaby Lake chips.

Netflix 4K streaming comes to the PC—but it needs Kaby Lake CPU | Ars Technica

And AMD???*Tongue

 

I think if game developers started to use other APIs rather than ancient DX9.x things would positively change for AMD. I am pretty sure Ryzen would perform a lot better if using Vulkan (Remember that VEGA release is just around the corner. Let's see if AMD can pull out something good both at the hardware and drivers level). Unfortunately most games (both existing and to be released) use D3D. The same applies for other platforms other than Windows. I think it's not gonna happen.