Windows 10: Is Windows Retail Version Upgrading to Win 10 OEM??

mine is the same and is not an upgrade ,fresh install from a preview iso file

 

you are correct - the keyword is device

 

As far as I know there is nothing stopping you from reinstalling the qualifying OS back on that same PC you did the upgrade on. That being true, if its Retail, you can transfer it to another PC. You don't lose that via the free upgrade. If that's true you haven't lost ay rights you had before the upgrade. It's only the Windows 10 install via the upgrade that's locked to the PC. It's a free offer and IMHO Microsoft has every right to put restrictions on how you get it and how you use it. Don't like it don't do it. Already did it, don't like it, Roll Back to your other OS you upgraded from.

 

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I agree

The problem I have is that there is no mention of 'lifetime of the device' within the EULA.
It is the EULA that forms the legally binding contract between Microsoft and the customer.
It is the EULA that I agreed to when I ticked the check box during the installation procedure.
It is the EULA that states:
"If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you." (I emboldened the most relevant section that pertains to me and my upgrade from a retail license. I do not think it is unreasonable for me to expect Microsoft to honor this contract. After all, they let people purchase Win10 for $2 on their site due a typo/admin error on their site.

End of the day, a contract is a contract and the law makes it binding.

 

Darn, I didn't realize it was the same key for everyone. However, that PC didn't have W10 installed before, so the point still stands: he can use that key to install W10 on a different mobo.

Also, according to this page, the upgrade will never expire, so it looks like we're good anyway.

 

Exactly how I was told... BTW A Retail version doesn't have limits . Just as long its install on only one computer at one time . There no limit as to how many computers you can install it on . This is why it's much more expensive than the rest . Its always has been with retail one set up on only one comp and transferable as often as you like

 

This is correct. The EULA clearly states that upgrades to the retail package may be transferred to another device that you own. Exercising this right _might_ require that you contact the upgrade center and obtain a new product ID key (as was the case back in the old XP and Vista days), but you could still do it with a minimum of hassle.

 

OK, so how will you do the transfer? How do you verify to Microsoft the old install is no more? The Product Code isn't going to tell them jack. How do you activate the new hardware? The common Product code is useless for that? I'm not saying you can't, just don't see any easy way to do it like in the past. Product ID I guess, but I do believe some members reported that was the same on two or more of their PC's after the upgrade. It's very similar but different on two of my PC's.

 

Then on July 30, 2016 you will have a case to bring against Microsoft if they fail to comply with their contractual agreements (and it would be interesting to see if there can even be a contractual agreement for something that was not paid for to begin with). I don't know how it works in your country, but in America you can't bring a legal complaint against a company for future failure to meet a contractual agreement. But, according to our 1st Amendment, you are free to....ummmm.....grumble about the future possibilities.

 

That's a different problem and that is something Microsoft has to figure out. People buying a retail Windows 10 license (not using the upgrade) also will need a way to transfer their license to a different device.

The different replies in this topic exactly highlight the problem: currently no-one knows if a Windows 7/8.1 retail license is upgraded to a Windows 10 retail license (including the right to transfer the license to a different device). All responses in this topic are based on assumptions...
Microsoft needs to make an official statement on two problems:

• whether a Windows 7/8.1 retail license is upgraded to a Windows 10 retail license
• how to transfer a Windows 10 retail license to a different device

Just my 2 cents

 

Buying full Retail isn't an issue, you get a unique Product Code to install with. And transfer if you want. I have Retail keys I can do that with via MSDN. It's only the free upgrades that use a common key. And likely for a reason?

 

In an elevated command prompt, type slmgr /dli (or slmgr.vbs -dli) and it will tell you - most likely Retail license.

How to know the Edition, Architecture, Channel and build of Windows 10 - Microsoft Community

However, read the link posted above:

Is that enough of an official statement from Microsoft?

 

I want to know what will happen with my licenses before I upgrade them...

No. That statement is NOT made by Microsoft but by a community member.

 

The same way they always did. The autobot looks at your activation history. Beyond some threshold (and I have no idea what that is or how they determine what it is) you get referred by voice telephone (or Skype these days) to what at one time was identified as an "authentication counselor." In my case it was because I had to do repeated re-installs while troubleshooting a motherboard with a bad VRM that kept eating CPUs. I plead my case after which she had me enter a 50 character alphanumeric to change the operating system's product ID. Then she stayed on the line and had me attempt authentication, which succeed. At that point she gave me the 25 character alphanumeric "for future reference." Relatively painless considering it was Microsoft support and that for the counselor, Engilsh must have been about her fourth language (not a criticism...I wish I was I could make that claim, but she was a bit difficult to understand at times).