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What a crock of shite this is! OEMs are forthright with listing everything included both hardware and software. The buyer should know everything they are purchasing. If the buyer didn't want an OS included, then the buyer should have bought one without one.

Perhaps now they will have to list the cost of the license in the list? Like a car listing the prices of all the options individually. If so, then they would have to list the price of every component of the computer. If so, then cars or anything else for that matter. Yes? If so, the lists would be a mile long! *Tongue

Also, a computer is not a computer without an OS any more than a car is a car without an engine.

What a wacky world this has become!

Thanks for posting that, labeeman. *Smile

:)

 

Window 10 Home Retail or OEM

Did you upgrade or is this a new PC with Windows 10 installed.

1. If a new PC that came with Windows 10 pre-installed then it will be OEM.

2. If the PC had the operating system pre-installed before the upgrade, then it is OEM.

3. If you purchased a boxed MS disc then it is retail.

 

Problems with the installation of Nokia PC Suite.

I had a old version of Nokia Pc Suite installed in my pc.So I remove it and I've installed the new version for my new cell-phone Nokia N80.

Now the installation doesn't work... it says : ERROR 1304. Error during the writing in the file C:\Programmi\Nokia\Nokia PC Suite 6\Help\PCSuite_ita.CHM. Make sure of having the right to access to the directory.

I can't delete the "Nokia" directory from my pc!!

PLEASE HELP ME !!!

P.S.Sorry for my bad English .. but I'm italian!

 

That's not so bad. Many people have been fed up with computer manufacturers for years bundling loads of rubbish software/trial software with their brand new computers. Personally I would prefer it if we had the option to just buy the hardware and then purchase Windows separately. That way I would have a clean machine with just Windows on it, without all the third party bloatware and junk.

 

I would agree about the bloatware but how many people who purchase a new PC will know how to go about installing a version of Windows on it?? Not many I would guess. This makes very little sense to me.

 

A car without an engine?? Hmm.. Yes, I want to Fred Flinstone mine!! *Roflmao2

 

As long as this applies to all computers then I don't have a problem, give people the choice

If it's only for MS then I am against it, like the idea of removing IE from windows to give people a choice

Not sure on Italy, but assume it's the same as the UK, very easy to buy a PC without an OS

 

That’s a good thought there, ARC1020. One of the first thing I did when I got this old Acer was to strip out the OEM partition. Now I have a Scr LK/e key on my keyboard that does nothing. The e was for Acer crap. WinKey/L locks the screen anyway. *Biggrin

*Roflmao2

Yabba dabba doooooo! *Biggrin

 

I'm not sure how easy it would be to purchase a new PC without an OS on it?? I think you might be able to do this from an online merchant but to go to a brick and mortar store and get one like this?? I'm going to guess that's going to be difficult at best.

I purchased my PC from a local shop that did a custom build for me and I was able to purchase it on a payment plan to top it off. So I know I could have got it without an OS for sure. When I did get mine it had Win7 Home and I did a clean install of Win8.1 Pro so I had that chaise in a round about way.

 

Fair comment. It would need to come with a specialised boot screen so that when you turn it on it allows you to set up internet/wifi, then choose to purchase, download and install Windows directly from Microsoft. Maybe even give you the option of an alternative freebie OS if you so choose to get around anti-trust.

IPad Mini is even worse, because it doesn't even give you the option to setup wifi/the internet, just an uninformative blank screen with a flat iTunes icon with a cable coming out of it. No instructions, nothing. Therefore instead of just connecting to wifi, the user has to download/install iTunes on a normal computer, connect the ipad via USB and then download IOS for the ipad via the PC. *Mad

Alternatively, they could allow you to buy the hardware with a bundled USB stick containing the OS of your choice for those who either don't have internet or have slow/capped internet? I think the key here is choice. It should be possible to buy the hardware and OS separately if someone chooses to and not be forced to have all the bloaterware installed on your brand new machine.

 

I agree about the bloatware! It was the main reason I purchased my last PC from a "build to order" manufacturer.

 

+1 The next time I just might buy a bare-bone kit or just use a web site to determine if all the parts are compatible and do a DIY job.

I hate bloatware!!

 

PCs without an operating system are and always have been available, they're called MACs *Wink seriously though if you look to specialised suppliers it's normal to have an option for which OS to be pre-installed, or indeed to have none at all.

This configuration stage is suitable for the markets that these outlets serve - Businesses, Pro's and enthusiasts.

With the box shifters they are selling an appliance that happens to be customisable after purchase - this is a completely different market

 

Hmm,, While choice is nice some users might opt for Linux and not really understand what they are getting or not getting. Then they would have to go back to Windows and who's going to take them through that process??