Windows 10: It’s (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account

Discus and support It’s (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; Have switched to gmail long time ago, but i do like the concept of disposable email addresses of yahoo. Useful to fight spam. Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by Brink, Dec 14, 2016.

  1. codynlaw Win User

    It’s (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account


    Have switched to gmail long time ago, but i do like the concept of disposable email addresses of yahoo. Useful to fight spam.
     
    codynlaw, Jan 1, 2017
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  2. DavidY Win User

    Sadly for some of us who have email accounts provided indirectly by Yahoo (the email address isn't "xyz@yahoo.com", but the email account is still managed on Yahoo's servers and reputedly within scope of the hack) 2-step verification isn't an available option.
     
    DavidY, Jan 1, 2017
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  3. MartinO Win User
    DavidY, not sure I understand this. Can you give an example? And is this a situation that would never occur with i.e. Gmail?
     
    MartinO, Jan 1, 2017
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  4. dencal Win User

    It’s (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account

    I don't know who your intermediary is but if they do not do two step verification I would be astonished.
    Sky using Yahoo certainly insist on it.....mine being ********@sky.com
    You should check settings.
     
    dencal, Jan 1, 2017
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  5. DavidY Win User
    It's BT. (aka British Telecom).

    I had a look but can't find a setting in my settings.

    Looking on the BT forums, posts from people who seem to be experts state that you can't get 2-step verification on BT Yahoo accounts - eg. on this thread.
    BT's poor email security and lack of 2 step verifi... - BTCare Community Forums

    It's probably complicated because BT announced they would migrate everyone's email accounts away from Yahoo and onto another supplier. This was over 2 years ago and although some people got migrated, they halted the migration for some reason that's not clear to me.
    But perhaps Yahoo aren't too bothered about rolling out improvements (such as 2-step authentication) as BT have already said they intended to leave them at some point, albeit they haven't done it very well so far.
     
    DavidY, Jan 1, 2017
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  6. dencal Win User
    David.
    How do you open your e-mail.....do you open BT webpage, click on link "e-mail", then sign in using BT e-mail address and password.

    If so then you must have two step registration with BT.....if so blame BT for security lapse.

    Yahoo have no idea what your BT password is or any security questions you made with BT in opening an account.
    It is not you opening Yahoo, it is BT using your logging in details.

    BT are solely responsible for any security if wording stated after @****** has any connection to any British Telecom affiliates.
    Yahoo are just a service used by BT to deliver.
     
    dencal, Jan 1, 2017
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  7. DavidY Win User
    There is no 2-step verification option or anything like it.

    I login via a BT page but it takes me to a BT-Yahoo page.

    BT emailed me last month to say I needed to change my password and security question, because of the Yahoo breach - and in fact threatened to lock my account if I didn't make the change within 7 days. However much that may sound like a scam email, I checked through another route and it was 100% genuine - lots of other folk got the same email too.
     
    DavidY, Jan 2, 2017
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  8. dencal Win User

    It’s (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account

    David.
    Of course it takes you to a Yahoo page......Sky does the same for me.

    To register with BT you must have two step verification.....ie:- security questions, password. etc
    Open your BT account to confirm.

    Please re-read carefully my last post to fully understand.
     
    dencal, Jan 2, 2017
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  9. simrick Win User
    I have a friend whose yahoo mail was hacked a few years ago - pw by brute force (I know this for sure, as his wife had changed it from a very secure pw I had setup, to a very simple pw which was easy to remember and easy to hack).

    The hacker immediately went into the account and set it up so that all replies to any email would be forwarded to him - to an alias email which was identical except for one character. This way, anyone "replying" would likely not notice the difference.

    He then proceeded to go through the existing address list and email all the friends, saying he was out of the country, had been robbed, and needed some money to pay his hotel bill and get on a plane home. The thing is, my friend travels regularly out of the country, and happened to be out of town at that very moment, so it was quite believable.. I got one of these fake emails, immediately noticed the incorrect return email address, and alerted my friend. In the meantime, I was having a fun conversation with the hacker.......*Wink
     
    simrick, Jan 2, 2017
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  10. DavidY Win User
    That's just recovery options.

    Two-step verification is something that you get asked every time you login (or every time you login from a device which isn't previously verified). Typically it uses something else in addition to your computer (usually a mobile phone), in conjunction with your password, to give more evidence that it is really you trying to login.
    For instance this is how it works on a Microsoft account.
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/...p-verification

    I believe that pure Yahoo users can switch on 2-step verification, and it should help give some more defence against hackers (although using SMS messages is far from foolproof). This was what MartinO was referring to earlier.

    However BT Yahoo doesn't ask for my security questions when I login- it only asks for passwords, which is just the one step. I hadn't used my security questions for several years until I changed them the other day.
     
    DavidY, Jan 2, 2017
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  11. dencal Win User
    Every time I log into my M$ account I only need to use my password having already set up two step verification.
    Its the same with BT, SKY and every other internet provider.
    You obviously do not understand my explanation, perhaps someone else can help.
     
    dencal, Jan 2, 2017
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  12. Winuser Win User
    I have two step verification setup and I have enter a code that MS sends to my cell phone.
     
    Winuser, Jan 2, 2017
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  13. Kari Win User

    It’s (Past) Time to Close That Yahoo Account

    The idea of two-step authentication is that the verification is only asked when you sign in to a service, email or any other service from a non-trusted device and browser (non-trusted = a device on which you have not used said service before, or in case you have used the device you have selected not to set it as trusted one).

    Using an Outlook.com email as an example, every time I sign in to Outlook.com from a new (non-trusted) device, or from a new browser on a trusted device, the security code will be asked. If cookies are allowed, this is then saved and no security verification will be asked from once trusted browser and device. There's no time limit, a once trusted device or browser will remain trusted.

    User can of course also select that all or selected devices and browsers will never be trusted and two-step authentication will be required every time simply by not selecting "I sign in frequently on this device. Don't ask me for a code":


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    This way the browser on this device will remain trusted only for duration of this session, and a security verification code will be asked again on next sign in.

    Regarding Microsoft accounts, you have to remember that the same security settings apply to all Microsoft services on a browser; If user has selected to let Outlook.com to ask security verification each sign in, then tells OneDrive.com not to ask the code again on same browser, Outlook.com will also stop asking the code. Trusting OneDrive means that you also trust Outlook.com, and any other Microsoft service you sign in with same email address.

    Other services, like for instance Office 365 for Business and Enterprise limit the time how long a device or browser will remain trusted. By default O365 for Business / Enterprise will ask the security verification again in every 14 days. This can be extended by O365 admin for up to 60 days. However, if user prefers to be asked a security verification code every time, he / she can simply choose not to select "Don't ask again for XX days". Doing this, a two-step authentication will be needed every time from every browser and device:


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    To put it short, a two-step authentication means that user can sign in without any extra efforts on each device and browser he / she has chosen to be a trusted device or browser. Whenever a sign in is attempted from a non-trusted browser or device, authentication is required.

    I like the security I get using two-step authentication. I would not even dream about using an email service that does not offer it.
     
  14. dencal Win User
    Each E-Mail address is unique.
    Each password is unique.

    When setting up an e-mail address with your supplier you will be informed if it has already been registered, and if so you will be offered a choice of alternative amendments....ie- perhaps added numbers.

    Passwords already registered will be rejected.

    These are your two step verifications......already built into the system after registration.
    Quoting the words of a song.....you can`t have one without the other.

    Kari, post explains in more detail when you might need further verification.
     
    dencal, Apr 4, 2018
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