Windows 10: Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck

Discus and support Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck in Windows 10 Backup and Restore to solve the problem; Panasonic Toughbook SX2 running Windows 10 Pro (probably last updated a couple of months ago, but I can't tell now) I recently upgraded from Macrium... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Backup and Restore' started by Randysea, Aug 14, 2021.

  1. Randysea Win User

    Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck


    Panasonic Toughbook SX2 running Windows 10 Pro (probably last updated a couple of months ago, but I can't tell now) I recently upgraded from Macrium Reflect (backup program) v.7 to v.8. I immediately created a new rescue media on a USB stick. It uses a Win/PE version. Naturally I wanted to test it, I rebooted into the Bios (F2 on startup) to make the USB stick the first boot source. I restarted up the machine and it booted in the rescue environment. That worked. Then I rebooted back into the Bios with the rescue USB stick still plugged. No reason, I just didn't think to pull it. I meant to reset the Bios to boot first from the hard drive but accidentally put optical drive into the boot sequence. This didnt work, of course. Then I pulled the Rescue USB stick. When I tried to reboot and reset the bios for the internal SSD drive, I got a blank screen from the get-go. I couldn't even get into the Bios with F2 any more. UPDATE TODAY (8/12/21): Today I can get into the bios with F2 and without having the USB stick inserted, though its still listed as the only boot device. When I reinserted the Rescue USB stick with the hard drive still selected as the first or second in boot order, I'd get a blue screen (don't remember which color) with a message that Windows\System32\winload.exe was defective or missing. It said to run the recovery disk, which I don't have. If I did not have the Rescue USB stick plugged, Id just get a totally blank screen, not even into the Bios if I pounded on F2. Then I removed the hard drive from the boot choices and was able to startup, hit F2, and get back to the bios. I was also able to boot into the Macrium Rescue environment. I tried the option to fix Windows boot problems. It didn't make any difference. Eventually I tried restoring the C: partition from a year old image file. Made no difference. If the Rescue USB stick isnt inserted, I get a blank screen on startup. If it is inserted but the hard drive is listed anywhere in the boot order, I get an error screen. Its been corrupt/missing file or just a generic error. So the question is, what to do now? It appears that all the files on C: (system and programs) and D: (data) are still there. I can see them from a command prompt in the Rescue environment. It seems like there should be some way to rebuild the MBR or whatever else is bad. When I search for a solution, there are hundreds. But Im not clear which if any I could even get to run in the first place. It would have to be a program I could copy to the Rescue media and run from a command prompt. Or it could be a program that would create a new, bootable USB stick on a different machine. One of those costs $150! Then Id still have to see if my laptop would boot from this USB stick. There is also a hidden partition that according to the bios can be used to wipe the hard drive and restore to the factory setup. I guess that could be a possible last resort #1. It would leave me with a four year old version of Win 10 and nothing else. If it did actually restore the boot sectors as well, then I might be able to restore the one year old C: and D; partitions from the backup. But what if it left the boot sectors still trashed. (Rhetorical question) As a last resort #2, Id be willing to just do a clean Windows install and lose all the other programs on my C: drive, if theres a way to do it given the mess my ssd drive is and my not knowing how to get a clean install onto a USB stick. I assume there are other threads on the board that could get me started with this. Help, please !

    :)
     
    Randysea, Aug 14, 2021
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  2. Randysea Win User

    Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck

    Panasonic Toughbook SX2 running Windows 10 Pro (probably last updated a couple of months ago, but I can't tell now)

    I recently upgraded from Macrium Reflect (backup program) v.7 to v.8. I immediately created a new rescue media on a USB stick. It uses a Win/PE version. Naturally I wanted to test it, I rebooted into the Bios (F2 on startup) to make the USB stick the first boot source.

    I restarted up the machine and it booted in the rescue environment. That worked. Then I rebooted back into the Bios with the rescue USB stick still plugged. No reason, I just didn't think to pull it. I meant to reset the Bios to boot first from the hard drive but accidentally put “optical drive” into the boot sequence. This didn’t work, of course.

    Then I pulled the Rescue USB stick. When I tried to reboot and reset the bios for the internal SSD drive, I got a blank screen from the get-go. I couldn't even get into the Bios with F2 any more. UPDATE TODAY (8/12/21): Today I can get into the bios with F2 and without having the USB stick inserted, though it’s still listed as the only boot device.

    When I reinserted the Rescue USB stick with the hard drive still selected as the first or second in boot order, I'd get a blue screen (don't remember which color) with a message that Windows\System32\winload.exe was defective or missing. It said to run the recovery disk, which I don't have. If I did not have the Rescue USB stick plugged, I’d just get a totally blank screen, not even into the Bios if I pounded on F2.

    Then I removed the hard drive from the boot choices and was able to startup, hit F2, and get back to the bios. I was also able to boot into the Macrium Rescue environment. I tried the option to “fix Windows boot problems.” It didn't make any difference.

    Eventually I tried restoring the C: partition from a year old image file. Made no difference. If the Rescue USB stick isn’t inserted, I get a blank screen on startup. If it is inserted but the hard drive is listed anywhere in the boot order, I get an error screen. It’s been “corrupt/missing file” or just a generic error.

    So the question is, what to do now? It appears that all the files on C: (system and programs) and D: (data) are still there. I can see them from a command prompt in the Rescue environment. It seems like there should be some way to rebuild the MBR or whatever else is bad.

    When I search for a solution, there are hundreds. But I’m not clear which if any I could even get to run in the first place. It would have to be a program I could copy to the Rescue media and run from a command prompt. Or it could be a program that would create a new, bootable USB stick on a different machine. One of those costs $150! Then I’d still have to see if my laptop would boot from this USB stick.

    There is also a hidden partition that according to the bios can be used to wipe the hard drive and restore to the factory setup. I guess that could be a possible last resort #1. It would leave me with a four year old version of Win 10 and nothing else. If it did actually restore the boot sectors as well, then I might be able to restore the one year old C: and D; partitions from the backup. But what if it left the boot sectors still trashed. (Rhetorical question)

    As a last resort #2, I’d be willing to just do a clean Windows install and lose all the other programs on my C: drive, if there’s a way to do it given the mess my ssd drive is and my not knowing how to get a clean install onto a USB stick. I assume there are other threads on the board that could get me started with this.

    Help, please !
     
    Randysea, Aug 14, 2021
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  3. NavyLCDR Win User
    Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck

    The hard drive boot sectors being trashed has nothing to do with booting from a USB flash drive.
     
    NavyLCDR, Aug 14, 2021
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  4. Randysea Win User

    Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck

    Macrium Reflect v.8 rescue media trashes boot sectors and I'm stuck

    This is looking more and more hopeless. I downloaded Windows 10 onto a USB stick. When I tried to boot, I get a screen with Kmode Exception Not Handled. So, no way even to get into the Rescue environment.

    - - - Updated - - -

    This is looking more and more hopeless. I downloaded Windows 10 onto a USB stick. When I tried to boot, I get a screen with Kmode Exception Not Handled. So, no way even to get into the Rescue environment.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm not sure it would make any difference, but I could put Windows 10 onto a dvd instead of the USB stick. My SX2 has a dvd drive built in so I could boot from it. But somehow I doubt it will do any better.

    Maybe I'll just try Ghot's idea of resetting the bios. Though there, too, I wonder how that could help if the hard drive boot sectors are trashed.
     
    Randysea, Aug 14, 2021
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