Windows 10: Microsoft account makes networking more difficult?

I've been using standard networking since win95, when it was so easy anybody could do it. It keeps getting more difficult. I had to learn in Win7 that you had to type in a permission name that wasn't even in the list "Everyone" and grant it the desired permissions. Seems pretty ridiculous but once I did it a dozen times I could do it without even looking it up. I just installed win10 on two of the computers in my network and when I tried to access shared folders I ran into the dreaded window that asks for a username and password. Usually this means you just screwed up one of the dozen or so networking settings that have to be just right, but after going over it many dozens of times I figured out that this was a new problem related to the fact that I now have a microsoft account. When the win10 installation suggested I create such an account it seemed harmless enough ... but big mistake! I wasted many hours in getting the file sharing to work. I didn't even know what user/password it wanted but it turns out I had to enter my Microsoft account username and password before the file sharing would work. So if a friend brings over his laptop and I want to share folders with him, not only do I have to give him my wifi password but I also have to give him my Microsoft account password!!! Does Microsoft really think people want to do this? I'm sure not, which means there is probably something basic I am missing. Can somebody explain this crazy state of affairs?

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How can Microsoft make networking any more difficult?

Why does every new gen of windows make this worse? Seriously? Forcing passwords on everyone, some people don't like them.

All i want to do is put a file from this computer to the computer in the next room, and the easiest way currently is to go via the internet. I have checked no password sharing on both computers and still this piece of
junk refuses to let me access the other computer without BS credentials? I don't need or want ANY passwords within windows ever, the way windows forces all this
fecal matter on you is intrusive.

I had the network working fine on windows 8 / 7 but now that i've upgraded both to windows 10 its turned into a
dookie nugget. I re-did all the sharing settings on the folders so anyone could read or write.

I have run all the diagnostics and they can't find any problems and i can't seem to setup a home network as its not detecting
Jack Shizen.

Why is there not a much simpler set of menus in the network settings everything is so hidden. Could someone write an app for an off button for all passwords in windows. Security be damned, i don't need them, I'm sure i'm not the only one!

In the event that microsoft has no common sense, could someone just give me the run down on how to connect my computers to share folders and files. And if you look at your reply and it's over a page long then have a good
think about that, why is it so long and how could we make this alot simpler? It doesn't take a
rat infested monkey butt to work out that home networks are common and shouldn't be so difficult to setup.

Cheers,

Kartz

 

How can Microsoft make networking any more difficult?

Hi Kartz,

Thank you for posting your question in the Microsoft Community.

Sorry to know that you are facing this issue.

If you are using a Microsoft account to login then you will have to type the password. If you are using a Local account then you have an option of not typing the password. You can use either an external drive to share files between computers
or use OneDrive to share files.

Getting started with OneDrive: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/getting-started-onedrive-tutorial

A local account is an account that lets you sign in to only one PC. If you create a Local account, you’ll need a separate account for each PC you use. None of your settings will be synced between the Windows 8.1 PCs you use, and you won’t get
the benefits of connecting your PC to your files, settings, apps, and services online in the cloud and accessible from anywhere. You also won't be able to download apps from the Windows Store without a Microsoft account.

Article for reference.

User accounts: FAQ: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/user-accounts-faq#1TC=windows-10

Keep us informed to help you further.

 

As network manager you will need to set up the credentials on the friend's comp yourself. Windows Credential manager doesn't show the password in clear.

Same would go for your wifi password if you wanted to keep it to yourself.

 

The live account does not make networking harder. It still works the same as it did with Windows 7.

 

Perhaps you are correct about that. I once had a program that allowed me to see what was underneath the asterisks or bullets that appear in place of the passwords. Maybe windows has gotten more secure lately, and this trick no longer works?

Still it would have been nice if Microsoft told me that this would be a consequence of creating a Microsoft account during the windows 10 installation. Then I may have skipped that step, or even if I had signed up for the account it wouldn't have confused me when windows networking requested a password for situations where one wasn't needed in the past.

Thanks for the reply linw.
~Paul

 

Sorry bro67 I'm not sure I know what a live account is ... but if you are referring to the Microsoft account I was encouraged to get during the win10 installation, it certainly did make it harder for me. In windows 7, if I set things up properly a password was not required to access shared files on another computer in the network (using traditional networking). However now it asks for a password no matter how it is set up. It's true that one can save the credentials which means that the password doesn't have to be entered every time. Still it wasn't something I really needed or wanted. (Although it is somewhat less of a problem now that at least I know what it wants when it asks for this password). Perhaps I could have avoided this problem by using the "homegroup" style of networking, but there are a few reasons that I still prefer the so-called traditional networking.

~Paul

 

A live account is exactly what Microsoft is forcing people to use to log into Windows 8 & 10. It is that thing called an email address for your Microsoft Live account and your password for the same.