Windows 10: Microsoft Blocks Classic Shell in Windows 10 Build 9879

Discus and support Microsoft Blocks Classic Shell in Windows 10 Build 9879 in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; I made the decision to try 10 without classic shell to try out what they Microsoft came up with. It is simply that. Microsoft want users to try the... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by labeeman, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. BillyBob Win User

    Microsoft Blocks Classic Shell in Windows 10 Build 9879


    Indianatone
    A simple rename of the install name will allow it be installed for now. It actually should be allowed with consumer preview though without having to rename it. As I said in my post they Microsoft want you to try the standard Windows 10 start menu. I know there is a work around. The important thing is to provide feedback on the new OS not on how Classic Shell works. Maybe the feedback is that some of us would like a start menu very like that which the Classic Shell provides.

    After installing W10 I wanted to use 'Computer Management' to change the disk drive allocations. This is easy to find in the Classic Shell, but somewhat obscure in the stand W10 start menu. I'm glad you said some of us, I don't want a Start Menu, also, if you know what you're looking for, why not do a search and then pin it to the task bar.

    Let me clarify that, I'll accept the Start Menu they have, but only because so many people seem lost without it.
     
    BillyBob, Nov 21, 2014
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  2. blaze007 Win User

    Indianatone
    A simple rename of the install name will allow it be installed for now. It actually should be allowed with consumer preview though without having to rename it. As I said in my post they Microsoft want you to try the standard Windows 10 start menu. I know there is a work around. The important thing is to provide feedback on the new OS not on how Classic Shell works. Maybe the feedback is that some of us would like a start menu very like that which the Classic Shell provides.

    After installing W10 I wanted to use 'Computer Management' to change the disk drive allocations. This is easy to find in the Classic Shell, but somewhat obscure in the stand W10 start menu.
    right click on the start menu icon open a little menu with lots of useful programs and shortcuts.
     
    blaze007, Nov 21, 2014
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  3. waltc Win User
    Well, then maybe you can also have Microsoft explain why CPU-Z (for cryin' out loud) suffers the same fate--and HWmonitor, too....? All these programs do is read hardware configurations, so why should they not work since they worked fine under 8.1?

    But just like with Classic Shell, renaming the executable solves the problem--and the programs install and run! I got the tip for CPU-Z from this thread, btw--tried it, and it worked fine.

    It's nigh inexplicable why Microsoft would hardcode the OS not to run certain executables *by name*--but not *explain* it in a note somewhere? That's nuts, imo. Why would Microsoft not want me to run CPU-Z???? Since they are bringing back the start menu, Classic Shell is at least rationally understandable (to a point)--but CPU-Z? Bizarre.
     
    waltc, Nov 21, 2014
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  4. BunnyJ New Member

    Microsoft Blocks Classic Shell in Windows 10 Build 9879

    I think that at this point in the testing MS is more interested in finding out what testers think of the new start menu rather than have them just use a tool like Classic Shell and then report back that it works. Well, of course it works but that's not the point of this testing. It's to check out the new start menu and to get feed back on how to change and adjust it for future builds.

    I'm still betting that tools like Classic Shell will work fine in the final release of Win10.

    CPU-Z issue is a bit bizarre..

    Jeff
     
    BunnyJ, Nov 21, 2014
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  5. waltc Win User
    So that is why I kept getting blank pages coming out of the printer when I wanted to print a coupon that someone had sent me.*Mad I got suspicious when even printing to XPS Document Writer did not work. (IE worked.) In this case, try and remember that Win10 is *beta*--it's full, chock full of bugs of all kinds. Microsoft can control and adapt IE to some things in Win10 because Microsoft controls both--but it's not up to Microsoft to guarantee the running of Firefox inside Windows 10 or any other Windows--that's up to Mozilla, strictly between you and them. (And it's early to start bitching at Mozilla about Win10, imo...*Wink)
     
    waltc, Nov 21, 2014
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  6. waltc Win User
    Yes, I can understand the Classic Shell thing at this stage--but the CPU-Z thing is bizarro world. I commented in Technet about it--got no response--but, what else is new in Technet?...*Wink More often than not when I have a problem I bother writing up out there I draw the ire of some "hotshot" who wants to tell me why my reasoning is flawed but then offers not one shred of assistance...!...*Wink

    Check it out:

    CPU-Z CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

    Weird.
     
    waltc, Nov 21, 2014
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  7. machare Win User
    Thanks, now I know where it was hidden.
     
    machare, Nov 21, 2014
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  8. machare Win User

    Microsoft Blocks Classic Shell in Windows 10 Build 9879

    I was not complaining as such, just saying that I was glad someone else had comfirmed the problem was a Firefox/W10 issue.
     
    machare, Nov 21, 2014
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  9. blaze007 Win User
    Yes, I can understand the Classic Shell thing at this stage--but the CPU-Z thing is bizarro world. I commented in Technet about it--got no response--but, what else is new in Technet?...*Wink More often than not when I have a problem I bother writing up out there I draw the ire of some "hotshot" who wants to tell me why my reasoning is flawed but then offers not one shred of assistance...!...*Wink

    Check it out:

    CPU-Z CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

    Weird.
    early during windows 8 rtm and late beta would could install cpuz but once u try to open it, it would cause bsods or completely freeze some computers.
     
    blaze007, Nov 21, 2014
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  10. Rickkins Win User
    Lost without it...??? What the hell is that supposed to mean...?? That we find metro too confusing...?? That we're incapable of using metro...??

    Fact is, we are old enough and experienced enough to know what we like, and what we want in an OS.

    Please keep your condescending remarks to yourself.
     
    Rickkins, Nov 22, 2014
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  11. BunnyJ New Member
     
    BunnyJ, Nov 22, 2014
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  12. Tony K Win User
    Now I'm confused. Who's we? Wasn't he on third? *Tongue
     
    Tony K, Nov 22, 2014
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  13. IVO
    Ivo Win User

    Microsoft Blocks Classic Shell in Windows 10 Build 9879

    What Bunny is trying to say is that not all of us are old enough or experienced enough or know what we want. Because some of us are little bunnies.

    Or at least I think that's what he's saying. But what do I know, I'm a little teapot.
     
  14. groze Win User
    • First Base: Who
    • Second Base: What
    • Third Base: I Don't Know
    • Left field: Why
    • Center field: Because
    • Pitcher: Tomorrow
    • Catcher: Today
    • Shortstop: I Don't Care
     
    groze, Nov 22, 2014
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  15. Many forums have "fanboy experts" (or "fangirl experts") who are unable to supply useful information or answer the original questions posed. *Sad

    Linux forums are notorious for this type of behaviour (e.g. RTFM).
    I've noticed a few on Stack Overflow too.
     
    lehnerus2000, Nov 22, 2014
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