Windows 10: Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella Admits Windows Phone Failed

Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella Admits Windows Phone Failed
“No question that we really missed the mobile one”

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Start menu not working on Windows 10

Satya Nadella is CEO of MSFT. Write him, because otherwise this problem is staying with us all it seems

 

Well.. at least he's being honest. MS missed the mobile market by a mile/kilometer.

 

Yes, but why? I've been watching and waiting since Windows 10 was released for a serious mobile phone counterpart, but there's still nothing. They don't seem to be capable of even getting them to market.

 

The 950XL was a pretty nice phone. But Microsoft needs to understand that they can't rely on just their own single devices that ship once every 2 years. They need the major phone vendors behind them.

 

Two years ago I made the jump to a Smartphone. Wife and I got the Lumina Icon and really like them. Long delay getting 8.1 but it finally happen. Now waiting on W10 and Upgrade Advisor said my Icon is eligible for the upgrade and MS is working with my service provider (Verizon) to release the upgrade. When these phones die I will probably go with Apple.

Jim *Banghead

 

Microsoft arrived on the phone front a day late and a dollar short. They should be more concerned with innovating than doing "me too" entries into fields already handled quite well by others (and better than Microsoft's ultimate efforts in an embarrassing number of cases).

 

So why are they trying to force a phone based OS on desktop users? Why don't they stick to what they are good at and give us a polished OS based on desktop / laptop use which is their primary market. They are fracturing the desktop market into 2 user groups, the 10 adopters and the users sticking with 7/8 for various reasons. Just my 2 cents.

 

Windows 10 is not exclusively for the desktop like Windows 7, but I feel it's a stretch to call it a phone OS. Windows 10 is an effort to bring a similar UI to many different types of devices to make them easier to use and provide integration. I haven't used any portable devices running Windows 10, but I feel that 10 supports the desktop quite well. I replaced the tiled start menu with "Start 10"; for me that's the only modification needed for better desktop support.

 

I agree. Windows 10 is a desktop OS that allows a user to configure it to look like what runs on a Windows 10 phone or in a tablet mode that looks like a tablet if they so chose. It's a user choice, typical of what Microsoft has always done. (Try that on an iOS/Andorid device.)

My spouse and I recently bought two new smart phones. We evaluated an iPhone (he has one provided for work), Android phones (lots of experience with our old Android tablets), and a Microsoft 950 XL with Windows 10 Mobile. In the end it was not hard to decide which version we wanted. The iPhone was immediately ruled out because my spouse hates how it works (look and feel, sound quality, etc.). Android was okay, but not great. The Windows 10 phone had the same look and feel as our Windows 10 desktops (yes we use the start screen tiles on our desktops although we also use the standard desktop) and setup was the same as any other Windows 10 machine. So we went with the 950 XL and have been extremely pleased. Oh and the integration with our desktops and Surface Pro 4 (synching contacts, settings, shortcuts, etc.) makes it a useful, seamless cross-device experience. Yes, I know you can do those things on the other devices (well not the Android device unless you have a Chromebook), but our friends with Macs find them to be non-intuitive. (And I know you can use Microsoft apps on iOS and Android for things like OneNote, Outlook, etc. But why not run the native version?)

Oh and did I mention how elegant the UI is in Windows 10 Mobile (live tiles, etc.) versus the old-fashioned iOS icons?

I really don't think Microsoft is walking away from mobile.

 

One's gotta give 'em kudos for trying and persisting - I recall a multi-million $ throw away of RT's a while back.

The initial idea was good... say I was a board member, and the Mobile guys pitched a universal OS across mobile/PC, I would be thinking the Windows faithful would be falling over themselves to have Windows across devices...

The issue is, as with Win 8, the implementation was poor... like with Surface, they just priced themselves out of the market - poor business planning IMHO.

 

I could argue that opposite is true. Windows phone or more accurate mobile W10 is an extension to desktop environment. That's one of main reasons I switched to Lumia 640, it plays great with my desktop W10, something I could only dream of with Androids. Relative lack of excellent APPs in the store is only thing I could complain about.
I have never been able to achieve such seamless cooperation between main OS and portable devices specially phones. Backups, data synchronizing thru One drive, One Note Contacts etc. and even Office is very easy. There are some new features that promise to be even better.
I would be very disappointed if low WP acceptance would kill it.

 

Hi there

Sometimes in business you have to admit even if your idea / device is far superior to the opposition it's time to give it up. The marketplace is fickle and doesn't always operate in logical ways.

I think it's not so long ago that we had the "Betamax Vs VHS" stuff with the far inferior VHS winning out. Similarly Tape vs Minidisc --although that fiasco was caused mainly by the rediculous amounts of DRM applied to music recorded on Minidisc just when people were starting to get used to the idea of digital music.

Plenty of other examples.

A Windows phone isn't going to hack it in the modern market -- in any case loads of apps that [people use daily are entirely missing from the Windows phone so anybody switching from an iPhone or an Andoid phone will be sorely disappointed.

I think also the idea of people doing a lot of Work "On the Move" these days is beginning to get a bit dated -- with decent fast Internet available everywhere most people - even if they travel - can do their work on a proper computer in much more relaxed surroundings than in the tight confines of a Plane or Train (or even a Bus) so the emphasis on creating a full office suite for a mobile phone just to me these days seems totally BONKERS and so "Last Century".

The old adage "Work Smarter - not Harder" still applies. Thank goodness Work / Life balance is coming back big time - finally. If you want to see people who probably will be hospital cases by the time they are 50 just go into any airport lounge and look at some of the "lower order" professionals who are using Business class for the first time all clicking away doing Office stuff !! --while I'm enjoying a nice PROPER Drink watching the latest episode of Game of Thrones --and I usually arrive at my meeting far more prepared and relaxed than the other crowd !!!!.

I don't need or want to be connected to a computer all the time --why should I even THINK of running backups from my phone or checking emails every few minutes --probably having to discard hundreds of emails from stores you bought a single product 7 years ago !!! offering stuff "you can't possibly do without". No there are times to keep both PHONE and COMPUTER SWITCHED OFF --just pull out a Kindle and have a great read.

Ms has some really good stuff in the field of AI and robotics for instance --it's time to put Windows Mobile out of its misery and save the shareholders some dosh.

Cheers
jimbo

 

Yes, this is a move in the right direction for shareholders etc.