Windows 10: Microsoft is working on a Game Mode for Windows 10

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  1. CountMike New Member

    Microsoft is working on a Game Mode for Windows 10


    They don't "try" to butcher existing code, they succeed, not a solution at all. Tried few when I had some lo end HW, no improvement. Some even made it worse !!
     
    CountMike, Jan 4, 2017
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  2. MrBill Win User

    This reads more like another sad attempt to get people to use the Store/Xbox when they already get their software directly from vendors, or in the case of PC games places like Steam or Origin.
     
    MrBill, Jan 4, 2017
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  3. CountMike New Member
    My thoughts too. Too much of UWP push.
     
    CountMike, Jan 4, 2017
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  4. Stephanie Win User

    Microsoft is working on a Game Mode for Windows 10

    As a Steam user and as with many things from MS Labs ... we will see *Smile
     
    Stephanie, Jan 4, 2017
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  5. ...pardon? How did they succeed if they made no improvement, and they do NOT have access to the source code or have the ability to replace signed Microsoft code? All a Third party can do is **** with the settings and possibly destroy system critical parts. Microsoft can rewrite the kernel itself to optimize things. Manually forcing high-priority on tasks? Not going to work. Rewriting the kernel so it has RTOS capabilities? That WILL work.
     
    FuturDreamz, Jan 4, 2017
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  6. CountMike New Member
    "they" don't have to rewrite anything and certainly couldn't change anything in the kernel, OS wouldn't allow that to protected files. Most they do is shut down some services or threads and give certain parts like CPU higher priority. Those things could be done manually, no need for special programs.
     
    CountMike, Jan 4, 2017
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  7. MrBill Win User
    I can tell you what I've done that vastly improved not only my uber desktop that runs the 8 core Intel extreme processor, but also helped my little Lenovo Yoga running an M3. In Group policy I disabled the 16 bit compatibility, which according to the description basically kills off the MSDOS service. You shouldn't need it, by per the description it improves performance, and they are correct. On my Yoga I killed off all the compatibility settings because I don't game on there. I know that sounds ironic given the topic, but some steam games, like Flight Sim X and add-ons may require some compatiblity. In any case, for newer PC games you should be able to shut all that down and it will speed up your PC. I've seen that first hand.

    I doubt that is what Microsoft is doing, but if you are looking for a do it yourself, and only run programs that have appeared in the last couple of years you can help yourself out.

    I'm sure in the Home Edition there are registry hacks, but unfortunately I only run pro, so I don't know what those are.
     
    MrBill, Jan 4, 2017
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  8. CountMike New Member

    Microsoft is working on a Game Mode for Windows 10

    I don't play new games much, most of them are out of reach on account of poor GPU anyway. What I usually did is to sign out of any programs that may be running in the background and so have more free RAM and save on some CPU cycles.
     
    CountMike, Jan 4, 2017
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  9. That's why I use Tune Up Utilities 2016 atm, I set this to High Performance Mode then switch it of via "msconfig" so it does not interfere with my game, I also have to set High Prioity in Task Manager.
     
    RoadBlaster, Jan 4, 2017
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  10. UWP games only, huh? That sucks. The only UWP game I own is Quantum Break, and I ended up just buying the Steam version of it so the files weren't locked and I could back up my save games to another drive.

    If this it true, then it's a terrible decision by Microsoft here.
     
    blackroseMD1, Jan 5, 2017
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  11. okfalls Win User
    okfalls, Jan 5, 2017
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  12. MrBill Win User
    Not the same animal though. If this new feature only tunes for Windows Store games it probably is using that database. XBox is/was designed of Microsoft's primary game platform. I honestly think getting a game machine that can run honest PC games is a great idea. So does Steam and many others evidently. The problem has always been the horsepower. Early on marketing did a good job of getting lots of even hard core gamers to try at least one console. However, over time people have begun to migrate back to the PC. Why? For one thing Notebooks are finally getting some decent power that can run many mid-level game. Portables can keep up for the most part with hard core games. Why have a console that is bulky when you can do it on your laptop? That said, I personally like being able to stream my PC games from my tower in my office anywhere in the house on my lower end hardware. Yes, XBox can do this, but it's console games. While I hope Microsoft will remove the Windows Store "feature", I'm glad to see them embracing the gaming community across console and PC platforms. Maybe one day they will create and XBox gaming server that sits in your house, runs all PC and Console games, and streams at least via your LAN, and possibly to the interwebs if they can get the security easy for Joe user. Then you could stream your games anywhere you want without someone like NVidia charging you stupid prices for playing games you own.
     
    MrBill, Jan 6, 2017
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  13. Adalwar Win User

    Microsoft is working on a Game Mode for Windows 10

    my feeling is that with W10 people are more and more are tied down to UWP Games and all that Store Software. I do not understand why people believe MS is caring anything about other Software or W32 Soft. MS is making out of Windows a Windows Phone for Desktop. I am not waiting anything else then that at a time W32 Software will completely DIED.
    W10 is the worst user unfriendly OS ever!
     
    Adalwar, Jan 6, 2017
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  14. Or maybe Game Mode is technically only feasible because of how UWP programs are designed. You wouldn't want your whole computer to bog down just because Game Mode got accidentally triggered by a DRM or sync applet...

    The whole point of UWP is to standardize the communication between the OS and the program. A good example is that an UWP package will clearly define what needs Game Mode and when to trigger it, while a traditional app may have crap all over the program folders (and possibly elsewhere) and with no clear answer for what needs Game Mode and what doesn't.

    It does suck a little for those of us who use Steam, but as long as Valve isn't spiteful and Microsoft cooperates then it will be coming. Windows 10 is still the best (if not the only) OS for playing all the latest games in all their glory, so a solution will be found.

    Apple has many times forced developers to rewrite their programs from scratch, while Microsoft is still bogging their system down with Windows XP app support. The simply is not indefinitely feasible. Eventually Microsoft has no choice but to rebuild their entire OS to make it prepared for what happens next.
     
    FuturDreamz, Jan 7, 2017
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  15. MrBill Win User
    I'm sorry but this is a load. First, Apple has always used Object C. Yes, they have deprecated some functions and added others, just like the Windows 32 API, but they have not required rewrites for applications to work. Secondly, Windows currently holds leadership in gaming precisely because of things like directX. However, previous attempts to control the gaming industry, like the previous Games for Windows "standard" have ended in failure. Finally, even Microsoft Office avoids the Windows store. I'm sure one day, if the UWP API ever matures to the point of offering the same level of built in programming interfaces you find in Windows desktop programs (apps are like gadgets, programs actually do something useful.) then you will find Windows store and the UWP as the accepted standard.

    In the meantime, Microsoft is rewriting the kernel to support Windows desktop programs on ARM CPUs rather than forcing desktop developers to move to UWP. I think that says it all. Well, that and Windows RT says it all.
     
    MrBill, Jan 8, 2017
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