Windows 10: Microsoft locks Ryzen and Kaby Lake users out of updates on Windows 7

Well, yes, manufacturers of HW can't just keep on making same thing all over, we'd never get past Intel 4004 than, New HW needs new OS and SW otherwise would be useless to innovate.

 

I just don't get the beef..
- Microsoft are GIVING YOU WINDOWS 10 for free..!!

- the most advanced and amazing operating system on the planet - FOR FREE..!!


- if you were to drive your Mini into a garage and a mechanic opened the bonnet to find that you'd installed a Rolls Royce engine in it..
- well, a sharp intake of breath isn't all you're gonna hear..*chuckle

 

I wonder how many of those complaining have actually upgraded to one of those unsupported CPU's? I'm thinking its not to many. For most its more than just a CPU swap, its a new motherboard, CPU, maybe new RAM etc. Then cheap out on your OS?

 

Well, not exactly but close enough (even for hand grenade). It's free upgrade from a system that had to be payed. Swap is free but OS isn't.

 

With all the loop holes its pretty dame close to free, lol.

 

I'll venture a guess that some don't know that you just can't plug a Ryzen into an existing motherboard that uses say an, A10/A8, processor. I really wonder how many have done a processor upgrade at all. From personal experience you have to have a new process that fits into the same socket to begin with and then the issue is does the motherboard support that new processor.

It's more complex than some think.

 

Small ones at best. All ya needed was a licensed copy of Win7/8.1 and you could get it.

 

Not many I'd say and there was also a scare when Skylake was announced and what happened ? According to those rumors W7 shouldn't have worked at all, not only some updates.

 

All you need now is a product code (that's not blacklisted). And some are reusing the same code on multiple PC's. Anyway, that's for another discussion. It's a lot easier to do the free upgrade now that you don't actually have to upgrade first, lol.

 

if peeps paid attention and microsoft stays true to their word we will be on 10 forever and just get new releases/builds of 10.

 

Hi there

with more complex stuff (AI design / encryption methodology, theoretical physics etc) we are GOING sooner or later to need another step up in computing power -- and you can't just keep adding more "co-processors" -- the next upgrade is going to eventually need a 128 bit OS and memory to go with it.

Once you get more than several co-processors operating the overhead rises rapidly -- for example an 8 way co-processor isn't as powerful as 8 X a single processor but about 6.5 times - and the overhead increases rapidly after that.

W10 will eventually be as obsolete as Windows 3.1 -- not Ms's fault but just the nature of us Humans getting ever more sophisticated with what we want to do with computers.

Cheers
jimbo

 

and again the new releases/builds UNDER 10.

 

Well no one here ever wants to somewhat criticize Microsoft it seems, not even voice a concern. It's one thing to not want to support newer chipsets functions, but it's a whole lot different than actively blocking certain chipset/processors from receiving updates.

Microsoft isn't some magically company that is free from flaws and isn't beyond from using tactics like this to increase the usage of Windows 10 to increase their revenue stream. But it seems like we aren't allowed to question them here, everything they do is great and we should bow down to them.

 

Microsoft tried it the other way round for one of my pc's, the update from W7 would not work with an ancient socket 939 until I ran a clean install ISO of W10. The pc has run W10 hp 32 faultlessly since just before the end of the free upgrades.
The volunteers at a museum use it for all sorts of things and they all like W10.

 

MS is anxious to get rid of W7, there must be whole team just to keep it current and updated. They could be put to better use developing and maintaining W10. I still have W7 in dual boot but it's only used as a reserve system and some games. It's just fine as it is and will be transferred (it's retail version) to a spare computer I will make after crossing to Ryzen sometime this year. It will be a very small mini ITX machine which is a bit older so W7 will fit it like a glove. No use of throwing out a perfectly good registration. I have an even older laptop with XP on it and it still does what it did when new.