Windows 10: Microsoft to Discontinue Old Internet Explorer Versions in January

Not really convenient... Why not make Edge support Java? What's the problem?

 

Because Java is a massive security risk and getting rid of it is the best way to fix it.

 

Too bad it doesn't work in Edge, only in IE and other browsers.

Edge doesn't support Java for "security reasons". This is the more stupid excuse they could use. Allow Java on Edge and make sure you cover all security holes so there is no risk using it. Or at least allow users to use it at their own risk, like Firefox is doing.

 

Sorry but the sooner you rid of insecure technologies like Flash and Java; the better. I NEVER install Java now. If a site needs it, I don't use it, and I've never had any challenges in that respect (so that shows where web developers are on the matter).

See folks? I don't always hate change. Now forgive me, but I need to go wind up my gramophone *Tongue

 

Yes, very clever, if we are unable to fix it, just get rid of it! And screw compatibility with most of the sites still depending on these technologies! Very clever move indeed! Thanks God IE 11 is still available, albeit hidden, in Windows 10, so I can forget about Edge (for the time being).

 

Actually, ridding of Flash and Java is a widespread effort amongst browsers and platforms. HTML5 has tremendous potential for video and animation. Now Java was originally meant as a portable non-OS specific platform to develop applications. But we have lots of other more secure portable development tools; we just have more secure technologies now. And yes, when support is yanked (or put on life support), it's the fastest way to accelerate that MUCH NEEDED change.

Flash is now becoming non-obtainable on the Linux and Solaris platforms (and it's not even compatible with iOS - and don't diminish the importance of that). You can use old revisions for now, but that will be short lived. And Java has been criticized for trojans and malware infecting .jar files for more than a decade. All site developers are becoming encouraged to embrace HTML5 for this reason.

The amount of sites with compatibility issues will become lesser and lesser as they switch to new rendering technologies. This needs to happen (especially from a security standpoint)

 

But don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Get rid of Flash and Java only when there are replacements that will do what Flash and Java do and at least as well.

 

I agree, but until most sites adopt new technologies it is wise to retain backwards compatibility with present technologies. At least let user decide at his own risk if he wants to enable them or disable them. Don't just remove them completely! In Firefox for example not all plugins are enabled by default, but when first a site ask for one, you get the chance to enable them.

 

Correction Vista is still supported for the time being until dropped in early 2016 likely around April like XP was in the first portion of 2014. I just wouldn't plan much with Vista at this time however as far as anything goes. 7 still has until 2020 before that gets the retirement home! That will be a sad day there for sure! *cry "mommy i want my maypo! they took 7 away!" *Sick

 

It's actually April 2017 when extended phase support wraps up for Vista.

 

That wasn't what the initial information about extended support lead everyone to believe there. The word previously had been 2016 while now even 7 has entered it's own extended support cycle as of January 2015. Microsoft Support Lifecycle

Note "Last updated: August 2015"

That was another reference page seen at Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help
The big slash however will be for IE in terms of IE 9 will be required for Vista while that would be IE 11 for 7, 8, 8.1 since support will be dropped by MS for anything else! But this isn't anything new either as far as MS announcing support would be ending for older versions of IE like IE 8. A 2014 Computerworld report had already indicated January 2016 as the deadline for everything older then IE 9. Microsoft slashes IE support, sets edict for Jan. 2016 | Computerworld

 

Here you go. I've never heard ANY other date than April 2017. Even on your link if you put in Vista and look under the extended support date -> April 2017. This was the first place I ever heard otherwise.

Windows lifecycle fact sheet - Windows Help

 

Vista can't use IE above version 9!

 

Correct. IE 9 is the last Vista version. What I tabled above a few posts ago was correct. Even Windows 8.0 and Server 2012 can only go to IE 10 (but 8.0 can usually be upgraded to 8.1, so that issue is solved)

 

The point remains. Make Edge as good as IE and then ask us to adopt it. Otherwise give us the choice, don't remove IE 11. Removing all ActiveX support, plugins and Java because they have security issues is not the right approach! Firstly, every serious user has an antivirus and firewall installed. Windows 10 have Windows Defender and Firewall, so even if you don't install third-party solutions you should be safe if they are kept activated and updated. Secondly, the right approach is to patch security holes, not remove the feature entirely! Yes, as some suggested we are moving to new technologies, no doubt. But until most of the sites adopt these new safer technologies, it is advisable to keep backwards compatibility with current technologies, otherwise the browser cannot be used from all the Windows 10 users, and they will just reject it and use another! Common Sense! And new technologies are not super-safe! I bet hackers sooner or later will find a way to exploit them and do damage on our computers. What Microsoft will do then? Remove these technologies again and go for even newer? This is not logical, as you can see!

So either put all features into Edge if you want to persuade us to use it, or just forget about it! We are going to use third-party browsers that still have the features we want!