Windows 10: Network Issue

Discus and support Network Issue in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; Both PCs are Win10 home 1709 16299.214 PC1 can not see PC 2 unless I type the IP address of PC2 into File Explorer -> Network \\192.168.1.110 and... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by mingus, Feb 6, 2018.

  1. mingus Win User

    Network Issue


    Both PCs are Win10 home 1709 16299.214

    PC1 can not see PC 2 unless I type the IP address of PC2 into File Explorer -> Network \\192.168.1.110 and all the shared folders are there. nothing shows while browsing the network if that makes sense?

    I am not using the Windows Homegroup.

    PC 2 sees both PCs and shared folders and works perfectly.

    thanks for any ideas.

    Edit: I just noticed SMBv1 was not installed on PC1. It is installed on PC2.

    I thought that was some sort of security issue and removed from Win10?

    going to shut down both PCs after enabling and see what happens.

    :)
     
    mingus, Feb 6, 2018
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  2. shut down goes into restart mode instead of shutting down

    shut down goes into restart mode instead of shutting down
     
    shutdown issue, Feb 6, 2018
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  3. Network Issue : 5G network is not detected & Network disconnects while watching video in you tube

    Hi Prakash,

    Thank you for posting your query in Microsoft Community. We apologize for the inconvenience caused to you. Appreciate the steps taken to solve the issue.

    I suggest you to refer the link below and check if it helps.

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/connectivity

    Hope this helps. Keep us posted on the status for further assistance.
     
    Eeshwar Kumar, Feb 6, 2018
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  4. Eagle51 Win User

    Network Issue

    Hey mingus,
    For comparison ... Check both PCs to see if SMBv1 is installed. SMBv1 might have gotten uninstalled on PC1. If it's installed on PC2 and not PC1, then you can try re-installing it on PC1.
    Control Panel > Programs & Features > Turn Widows Features On & Off > SMB 1.0/CIFS File Sharing Support

    Network Issue [​IMG]
     
    Eagle51, Feb 6, 2018
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  5. mingus Win User
    SMBv1 was not installed on PC1. I set it up like this with Automatic Renewal unchecked, and Setup PC2 the same - all 3 were checked on PC2.

    shut down both and now working. Thank you. I followed the thread below.

    If it's a security risk and removed in latest Win10 version, why does it need to be installed?

    thanks again


    Edit: I guess I spoke too soon? now not able to browse either way unless I type the IP addresses of the PCs.

    I noticed SMBv1 was unchecked on PC1? checked them. rebooted. the same thing, now able to see the network PC unless I type the IP address. Thanks, Bill!

    Thanks for the help.
     
    mingus, Feb 6, 2018
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  6. Eagle51 Win User
    SMBv1 was patched by MS, so the risk is low IMO, but you don't have to use SMBv1. You can use SMBv2 only and map a network drive. The Computer/Master Browser (which handles showing network shares) is tied to SMBv1, so when it's uninstalled network shares don't show in File Explorer > Network.

    Note: I havn't tested this lately, but I think you can leave SMBv1 installed, but disable it and still have network shares show in File Explorer > Network ... see link below for all the commands.

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...in-windows-and
     
    Eagle51, Feb 6, 2018
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  7. mingus Win User
    Why is it they showed up for 10 minutes and disappeared?

    strange how SMBv1 came unchecked and when I checked them nothing seems to install. I rebooted and SMBv1 is still installed, but no shares showing either way now?

    I'll look at the link you posted.

    thanks
     
    mingus, Feb 6, 2018
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  8. Eagle51 Win User

    Network Issue

    Hmmm, that is a bit strange, not sure what happened *Sad
     
    Eagle51, Feb 6, 2018
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  9. mingus Win User
    I shut both PCs down, restarted and working again?

    Thanks again, definitely learned something tonight.
     
    mingus, Feb 6, 2018
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  10. Eagle51 Win User
    Your Welcome ... glad it's working for you
     
    Eagle51, Feb 6, 2018
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  11. Eagle51 Win User
    Hey mingus,
    FYI ... If you want to test the two scenarios for SMBv1 & SMBv2 from that link I posted. All that stuff basically boils down to the following.

    Note: If you're not sure what the following does and how to undo it or you're just not comfortable doing it .... Then DON'T DO IT *Smile

    Note: This assumes that SMBv1 is installed ... if it's not then it will throw errors.

    Run PowerShell as Administrator and copy/paste the following

    Enable SMBv1 and SMBv2 ...
    Set-SmbServerConfiguration -EnableSMB1Protocol $true
    Set-SmbServerConfiguration -EnableSMB2Protocol $true
    sc.exe config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb10/mrxsmb20/nsi
    sc.exe config mrxsmb10 start= auto
    sc.exe config mrxsmb20 start= auto
    sc.exe config browser start= auto

    Disable SMBv1 and Enable SMBv2 ...
    Set-SmbServerConfiguration -EnableSMB1Protocol $false
    Set-SmbServerConfiguration -EnableSMB2Protocol $true
    sc.exe config lanmanworkstation depend= bowser/mrxsmb20/nsi
    sc.exe config mrxsmb10 start= disabled
    sc.exe config mrxsmb20 start= auto
    sc.exe config browser start= disabled

    Reboot PC after running either of the above.
     
    Eagle51, Feb 6, 2018
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  12. mingus Win User
    Network Issue [​IMG]



    Will this change anything in the registry? maybe PC1 isn't really enabled at this point? can not see from PC2 now.

    I have never messed with PowerShell. seems straightforward. thanks.
     
    mingus, Feb 6, 2018
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  13. Eagle51 Win User

    Network Issue

    To be honest, I don't remember if the PowerShell commands add the SMBv1 registry entry. You might want to add it manually to make sure. Don't forget to reboot PC *Smile

    Note: When it comes to SMB ... it is both a Server and Client.
     
    Eagle51, Feb 6, 2018
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  14. Eagle51 Win User
    You might find this useful to get info on SMBv1 & SMBv2, so you can compare the settings and make sure they are the same on all your PC's.

    Note: It does NOT make any changes to your PC, it just creates a PCNAME-SMB-CHECK.txt file on your desktop
    Note: It assumes you have NOT moved your /Users/UserName/Desktop folder
    Note: It assumes that SMBv1 is installed, otherwise it will throw errors.

    Run PowerShell As Administrator

    $(
    "$(get-date -format g)"
    "$($env:computername)"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol | FINDSTR "FeatureName"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol | FINDSTR "State"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Client | FINDSTR "FeatureName"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Client | FINDSTR "State"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Server | FINDSTR "FeatureName"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Server | FINDSTR "State"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Deprecation | FINDSTR "FeatureName"
    get-windowsoptionalfeature -Online -FeatureName SMB1Protocol-Deprecation | FINDSTR "State"
    get-smbserverconfiguration | Select EnableSMB1Protocol,EnableSMB2Protocol | FORMAT-LIST
    sc.exe query mrxsmb10 | FINDSTR "SERVICE_NAME"
    sc.exe query mrxsmb10 | FINDSTR "STATE"
    sc.exe qc mrxsmb10 | FINDSTR "START_TYPE"
    sc.exe query mrxsmb20 | FINDSTR "SERVICE_NAME"
    sc.exe query mrxsmb20 | FINDSTR "STATE"
    sc.exe qc mrxsmb20 | FINDSTR "START_TYPE"
    sc.exe query browser| FINDSTR "SERVICE_NAME"
    sc.exe query browser | FINDSTR "STATE"
    sc.exe qc browser | FINDSTR "START_TYPE"
    Get-ItemProperty -Path HKLM:SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters -Name SMB1,SMB2 | FORMAT-LIST -Property SMB1,SMB2
    Get-ItemProperty -Path HKLM:SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation -Name DependOnService | FORMAT-LIST -Property DependOnService
    ) > "$($env:userprofile)\Desktop\$env:computername-SMB-CHECK.txt"
     
    Eagle51, Apr 5, 2018
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