Windows 10: New win 10 istall on ssd, hdd detcted, but no data (partitionned?)

Discus and support New win 10 istall on ssd, hdd detcted, but no data (partitionned?) in Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware to solve the problem; Hi all, I had a computer running on Win 7, I upgraded the hardware including buying a new ssd and installed win 10 on that ssd. I left all disks... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Drivers and Hardware' started by TheIronEddie, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. New win 10 istall on ssd, hdd detcted, but no data (partitionned?)


    Hi all,
    I had a computer running on Win 7, I upgraded the hardware including buying a new ssd and installed win 10 on that ssd. I left all disks plugged in while doing that, so I now have:
    1) My main ssd with Win 10, running great
    2) my old ssd that had the win 7 partition, still not reformated, apparently doing well ( I see the old windows files and the disk size is the right one)
    3) my old hdd, that never had a windows partition and was used for storage. It is 1TB and had about 800-900 GB of data.

    Now, that hdd does show up in my files exlporer, but as empty with used space 29.7 gb, free space 70.2 gb, total space 99.9 gb. So I guess windows 10 only sees a partition here? It says 29.7 GB used, but is apparently empty. And I don't know where the rest of my files are.

    Any help?

    Thanks in advance,
    E!

    :)
     
    TheIronEddie, Aug 3, 2019
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  2. HLL_544 Win User

    Saving free space on SSD (Regarding multiple obligatory partitions on main drive)

    Gerry Here just copy-paste some irrelevant response.

    Well, **I've figured it out**. Here my solution (I Take no responsibility from any damage that might arise from this process, and I do not guarantee it to work for u.)

    We'll assume u have 2 disks; SSD and HDD.

    Also NOTE: I Work in a GPT-Disk partitioning scheme, I don't know if it's applicable on dos-style MBR partitioning.

    General-methodology wich we are going to work with (or TL;DR).

    • Delete all partitions on all drive
    • Install Windows on the HDD Drive
    • Install Windows on the SSD Drive (yes, twice!)
    • Repartition the HDD to free up and reallocate as we wish (The only parition that HAVE to be there is the EUFI System (Fat) )
    • After freeing up HDD space, move user folder to the HDD
    • PROFIT
    And in more detail:

    THIS GUIDE ASSUME THIS IS A FRESH PC - THAT U DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING U NEED ON EITHER DISKS.

    * - Asterisk, not a real step, just additional information

    • Boot into windows 10 installation
    • Clear ALL partitions on BOTH drives
    • Let windows install itself onto the HDD, We'll call this installation win-hdd
      • There is no need to actually boot into this OS.
    • Boot into windows 10 installation
    • Let windows install itself onto the SSD. We'll call this installation win-ssd
      • *What would happen now, Is that windows detects the recovery and eufi partitions and does not need to create such additional partitions on your ssd. It would only create a 16MB windows reserved partition.
      • *Your boot partition would be hdd/eufi; But since windows detect it's own bootloader it would allow you to duel-boot between win-hdd and win-ssd(default)
    • Optional: During windows-ssd first run wizard switch to audit mode (CTRL+SHIFT+F3)
      • *We would use audit mode to:
        • * Optional1: Repartition hdd
        • * Optional2: Change "Users" folder to the hdd.
        • * If u do not want to move Users folder, u can do 6.2 After win-ssd fully boots instead
      • Repartition hdd & move Users folder:
        • Using a 3rd party tool such as "MiniTool Partition Wizard" you can do the fallowing *as you wish*:
          • Delete win-hdd partition
          • Delete recovery-hdd partition
          • Delete windows reserved (16 mb) partition.
          • You can also later move the EUFI to the start of the hdd disk, if needed
          • Create new partition (free to use) on hdd.
          • Make sure to properly assign drive letters to all drive as u wish
          • Fallow
            this guide
            to relocate the User folder (Starting from Step 2)
    • Boot into windows-ssd; If u do not know which one (int the OS selection screen) It's safe to assume that the automatically-selected one is the win-ssd.
    • If u have not performed 6.2 Yet, this is the time to do that now.
    GLHF.
     
    HLL_544, Aug 3, 2019
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  3. Windows 10 on HDD to a new SSD

    I have recently replaced the 500 GB HDD in my laptop running Windows 10 with a 480 GB SSD. The laptop was fully configured with my applications and other settings. The steps I took were as follows:

    1) Shrink the C: drive so it was significantly smaller than the SSD (by at least 100 GB) using the Disk Management tools in W10.

    2) Copy all the files from D: onto an external HDD.

    3) Download Ubuntu Linux and burn on to a DVD.

    4) Download Windows 10 from Download Windows 10 and burn this on to a DVD.

    5) Close down and boot the laptop from the Ubuntu DVD from step 3 (I used a USB DVD rewriter).

    6) Plug in the external HDD.

    7) Open a Linux terminal and cd to the external HDD.

    8) Copy the C: partition to the external HDD using a command such as:

    dd bs=1024k if=/dev/sda1 of=C-drive

    where sda1 is adjusted to point to the correct partition.

    9) Close down and remove the external HDD.

    10) Remove the HDD and replace with the SSD.

    11) Perform a clean install Windows 10 from the DVD from step 4. Deleting all partitions from the SSD if it has had any created on it. When it asked for the product key, there was an option to enter it later. Make sure that the C: drive that is created is
    the same size or bigger than the C: drive was on the HDD.

    12) Repeat steps 5, 6 and 7 then run the command

    dd bs=1024k if=C-drive of=/dev/sda4

    With the clean install of W10 64bit, sda4 was the C: drive on the SSD after the installation.

    13) Reboot from the SSD. The first couple of times my laptop reported errors and went into repair and diagnostic cycles. The last one said something like Reboot or Go to further tools. I cannot remember the exact messages but the meaning was as I have described.
    I rebooted and Windows 10 came up and ran perfectly.

    14) With the SSD working I shrank the C: drive a few GB to make sure the physical space was the same size as the actual filesystem.

    15) Create a D: format it and copy all the saved files on to the new D: from the external HDD.

    Job done. All my applications worked perfectly and the laptop connected to my wireless network without needing the pass phrase re-entering. I had tried several other ways of cloning the HDD to the SSD, but as the SSD was 20 GB smaller this was the only way
    I managed to get it to work.

    I hope this helps others to make the HDD to SSD transition.
     
    Grangeland, Aug 3, 2019
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  4. lacrumb Win User

    New win 10 istall on ssd, hdd detcted, but no data (partitionned?)

    Move OS to SSD leave data in HDD

    I would clone the HDD to the SSD. Then format the HDD and set up a number of partitions for the different kinds of data. Then move the data from the SSD to the different partitions on the HDD.

    Then you might want to reduce the size of the C:\ partition and put a couple partitions on the SSD for those things that need the speed.

    There are some free programs to do the clone. I use EaseUS ToDo Backup.
     
    lacrumb, Aug 3, 2019
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