Windows 10: NTFS vs BTRFS please Ms new file system wanted

Hi there

Isn't now about time that Ms started implementing a far more robust, faster and resilient file system with decent jounallinhg -NTFS has been around for so many years now that I'm amazed it is still the main FS for Ms.

What's wrong with trying out some of the more modern file systems on say the Development builds on Windows insider (of course keeping the old for compatibility).

Here's a BTRFS file copy - approx 47 GB 12 files approx 4GB each -- video files at approx 200 MB/s (not Mib/s please note). Beats file explorer any day.





Cheers
jimbo

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NTFS - time for Ms to create new file system ?


Hi there

I posted recently about how slow NTFS was when you were copying large amounts of data - especially if the data consisted essentially of zillions of small files.

Here's a reliable test which amply demonstrates that it really is time for Ms to at least consider re-writing the NTFS file system - especially as more and more of even HOME users have increasing amounts of data. The problem isn't per se in the maximum capacity of the file system but the way the I/O is performed.

Here's a brief image





For those interested the article is here

Linux 4.0 Hard Drive Comparison With EXT4 / Btrfs / XFS / NTFS / NILFS2 / ReiserFS - Phoronix

Cheers
jimbo

 

NTFS - time for Ms to create new file system ?

ReFS is built into Windows 8.x and up. It's used by StorageSpaces for instance, but can also be enabled for normal drive usage, though it cannot be a boot volume.

How You Can Try the New Resilient File System for Windows

Having said that, ReFS will probably take 10 years before it's ready to replace NTFS, just like NTFS took a number of years before it replaced FAT(32).

ReFS does not perform well (yet) on every condition, and in at least one case (sequential writes) it can be very slow. But I imagine that will change over time.

SQL Server and ReFS: Part 2 FIO Benchmarking NTFS vs. ReFS | Exchange Spill

I was really just commenting that Microsoft was already doing what Jimbo was suggesting. It doesn't mean it's ready to be used as a primary filesystem yet, but it's being done.

 

NTFS - time for Ms to create new file system ?


Hi,

ReFS is still not implemented in consumer systems as far as I know.

NTFS is slow because it emphasizes security and data integrity.
Any way you turn it, it all comes down on what you want to compromise really.

Add a myriad of small files to be copied (meaning opening and closing every single one of them) and Windows wanting to check every file viruses and god knows what plus the fact that actions such as copying, moving and other file actions aren't high on the priority list, you inevitably end up with a long waiting time.
A time depending on your CPU, chipset, whatever.

All in all I find copying/moving file I W10 slow. I.e. way below what the hardware is capable of. it would be nice if we or W10 could set the priority of the file handling task to high when nothing else is running or demanding priority.

Cheers, *Wink