Windows 10: Observation.

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Add in all the MVP badges and its not a big stretch to thinking its a Microsoft sponsored Site.

I for the most part haven't had many big issues. That's not to say others haven't though. If your one of the few with multiple issues, your going to rant. I do it from time to time. No infractions yet, I'm carful to diss windows not another forum member. *Wink

To the OP, post your issues in separate threads, if you can, and somebody will try to help. I'm not all that happy with the current release cycle and frequent big upgrades, but it is what it is. I don't see it changing any time soon so we'll just have to deal with it. One could say "moved" versus "hidden" as to those hard to find settings.

 

*ThumbsThanks for your input, you can put me amongst those that believed it was Microsoft backed.*Focus
I totally agree with your sentiments expressed.*Ditto

Graham.

Have a good Christmas all.

 

Windows 10 is ever changing OS, for some (Insiders) even more than for regulars. Complaining about that new version "broke" some programs is at same level as complaining about W98 programs not working with W7 for instance.

Those "facts" of yours are not facts. Here are the facts:

Hierarchy of a computer system has been established at very beginning, Hardware > OS > Programs (SW) and that's not going to change any soon. Each one is fully dependent on previous one.

HW is not "braking" OS, OS has to keep up with HW, OS is not "braking" programs, programs have to keep up with OS. If a program doesn't evolve with previous two instances, it's at fault and should be replaced if it's author won't or can't update it should be replaced or dumped.
For programs/games I can't/won't "live" without, I have set up dual boot with W7, that's only how far back I can go with this HW otherwise there would be XP in there too.
There's also Linux (Mint) in my mix so most bases are covered. For the rest there's also VM to use.

 

Type in Search.....anything you wish to know is instantly located or explained....just couldn't be simpler.

 

The worst version of Windows in regards to updates was Windows 7. On a system that hadn't been booted in awhile, there would often be dozens or even hundreds of updates that would be forced when you shut the system down. Also had major problems with the Update Service in Win 7 causing the cpu to be pegged at 100%. I was glad to be rid of that mess.

I have multiple desktops, multiple laptops and multiple Windows tablets, all running Win 10 (some Pro, some not). I've never had an update cause an issue for me in Windows 10. IMO, Win 10 is much cleaner and far more stable than any previous version of Windows.

 

Totally agree. Some older games and programs have issues with Win 10 so I dual boot Win 7 in order to use those programs or play those games. Couldn't be easier.

 

What windows 7 were you using?
I used starter, home and pro and never had a forced update (beside maybe the GWX update);
are you serious or are just ... well s trolling*Smile

 

I am using Win 7 pro on my dual boot and don't have forced update issues. I have the choice of installing the updates or not. Maybe Strollin didn't have the option turned off.

 

If neglect for some time W7 updating has become difficult and lengthy process. My is very early version updated only to SP1 and last few update attempts failed miserably. When forced it broke it's license so I left it at SP1. It's used only for some games and as a "spare" system. MS has practically lost all interest in it as it doesn't feature in any of their plans. Basically it's dead !!!

 

For sure that is one way of doing things. I use it often in both Windows 10 and Windows 7.

Thanks for the reminder.

Jack

 

Mothie, Its really not Microsoft, If you buy a computer from manufactures, they tend to modify the OS so they can add their own software.
I bought a ACER Aspire 5515, came with Vista Home Basic,, that was what it was basic windows for it to run. I had lots of problems with it. Malware update kept trying to remove ACER's software, I had it repaired 3 times under warranty, still had same problems.
I even bought a Vista DVD to upgrade Home Basic to Home Premium, the files needed to do upgrade were missing. I went looking for full version of Vista and they were already gone from shelves. I bought a System Builders Service Pack of Windows 7 and installed it on the ACER.
I never had any problems since I did that clean install, That ACER took a lot of punishment, it hit the floor lots of times and still booted up. the casing is busted up, monitor doesn't work, but can hook up external one.
From what I have read on Facebook on Microsoft page,,, Windows 10 was more designed for businesses than us the average users.
Networking is a bunch of computers linked together for sharing like business computers are.

 

You mean kinda like the internet is????

 

No, not dead at all, actually it's borrowed some of the new Win10 habits - monthly update rollups.

Win7 updates got horribly slow because there were so many of them it took (literally) hours to determine which of the myriad your particular PC needed. What was desperately needed was a new service pack to draw a line in the sand and reset the baseline.

It never got one, but it got the next best thing, the Convenience rollup update for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 (KB3125574) (only available from the Update Catalog). Install that then use Disk Clean up to clean up system files, service packs and the windows update backups - then Win7's windows update runs smoothly again.

I've just restored a Win7 laptop to its factory image, it's so old that it predates even SP1 (so I then had to install that), then the convenience rollup followed by a clean up. After that windows update ran smoothly and brought it fully up to date.

This is the only machine I have that's never been updated to Win10. As it has no digital licence for Win10 I'm going to use it in the New Year to test if MS have finally turned off the upgrades after Dec. 31st as that have said they will.

 

Did Microsoft actually say that? Or did "that" say that *Wink

The end of free upgrades is all just rumours based on nothing as far as I can tell.

 

Based on this official statement...

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/acce...ndows10upgrade

It is reasonable to assume that issuing digital licences for an upgrade was left turned on to support the accessibility upgrades, and will be turned off once the offer ends.