Windows 10: OK! Select Language: English (United Kingdom), English (United States)

Hi there,
When choosing the Win 10 install I am given these options:
Select Language: English (United Kingdom), English (United States)

are there any major differences? apart from the obvious one - certain words are spelt differently...

thanks!





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Microsoft Windows XP

Build 2600

Service Pack 2

Language: English (United States)

Language for non-Unicode programs: English (United States)

Locale: English (United Kingdom)

Input language: English (United Kingdom)

 

Cannot remove keyboard layouts

The system language is English (United States) with one keyboard layout US (QWERTY). I have configured another layout Hungarian-101 (QWERTY). But for some reason 2 other keyboard layouts keeps popping up in my input method list on the system tray: ENG UK:
English (United Kingdom) - United Kingdom keyboard; and ENG US: English (United Kingdom) - US Keyboard.

These last 2 input methods are unwanted. I did not configure them and I they cannot be found in the Settings > Region & language menu.

I can remove them temporary by:

1. Add English (United Kingdom) language to the system

2. Set English (United Kingdom) as default

3. Removing the English (United States) language

4. Add English (United States) language again

5. Add US English keyboard layout to English (United States)

6. Remove English UK keyboard layout from English (United States) language

7. Set the English (United States) as default again

8. Remove the English (United Kingdom) language

At this point the system language settings are back where they were before, except now there are only the two configured input methods on the system tray: ENG: English (United States) - US Keyboard; and HUN: Hungarian - Hungarian 101 keyboard.

After restart all the unwanted keyboard layouts are back.

 

The difference is the spelling of some words, default measurement system and default formats for currency, date and time. The spelling cannot be changed later without downloading and installing a language pack and applying it.





The formats can be changed to whatever user prefers. US English has by default first day of week Sunday, UK English Monday. US English Windows uses by default 12 hour clock (12 AM to 11:59 PM) and has date format as MONTH DAY YEAR, whereas UK English has 24 hour clock (00 to 23:59) and DAY MONTH YEAR.

Default currency sign is in US English Windows $, in UK English version £. In addition the default measurement system in US English Windows is U.S. and in UK version metric.

The UK (GB) English Windows 10 is also known as English International, see for instance the name of UK English Windows 10 TH2 version 1511 official ISO images which MS has named as Win10_1511_1_EnglishInternational_x64.iso.

 

Well, I never knew that!

From The seven-day week

I admit to being behind the times. I was educated in the UK, and had always been taught that Sunday was the first day of the week, but of course this is at variance, even with the Book of Genesis, where we are told that the Creator rested on the seventh day.

If we really adhered to the standard, we should use YY MM DD for date formats.

 

Same here *Confused although Monday does make more sense.

 

It's called weekend, I mean Saturday and Sunday is, not weekchange as would be more logical if the week changed from Saturday to Sunday *Smile

Weekend ends the week, thereafter the new week starts on Monday.

 

Ooh... Kari, that's MUCH too logical... when you consider, for example, that in the UK a popular magazine for television times and program details is called the Radio Times.. (it started when there was only radio and radio broadcasts were new - it also includes radio programs).

But we do sometimes stumble with 'next week, this week, last week'.

 

thanks Kari!

 

Main thing is the keyboard is slightly different e.g. @ and " swap positions, £ is where $ is etc.

 

I don't see how the keyboard would be the main thing? It belongs to same category as formats, changed easily to whatever you want to. IF your physical keyboard layout is UK English but your Windows installed in US English, just replace the US keyboard in Settings with UK one.

 

That caught me out on my Raspberry Pi. The default in Raspbian is English UK and your not given an option to change it during the install. Slightly off topic I know, but it can have you scratching your head if your using an American keyboard. it's not hard to change, once you figure out what's going on. It wasn't immediately obvious to me the first time it happened though.

 

It can be hard, indeed impossible, to change. Several keys on my KB remain wrong if set to English instead of USA --- unless someone can show me how to fix it. My local technician couldn't.

 

If your keyboard doesn't match the selected language it will never happen. If you want your language to be English US you need a US keyboard.

 

That is absolutely not true. Totally wrong information which needs to be corrected. A fact check before posting is always recommended, especially when using such strong statements as "... it will never happen".

The PC in general and Windows in particular has no need to know and recognize the actual physical layout of the attached physical keyboard device. For Windows it is totally irrelevant, you can use any localized physical keyboard device to type using any Windows input language.

Using myself as an example, all my physical keyboards are either US or German but my default input language (my chosen Windows keyboard layout) on all computers is Finnish. This computer I am using to compose this reply has display language (Windows system language) British English, input language Finnish, and the physical keyboard is US English Logitech MK-710.

I am I would like to say extremely experienced in using multilingual Windows, I know how it works.

For me it is not a problem that my physical keyboard layout do not match my chosen input method. In case of this particular computer now, my physical keyboard looks like this (screenshots using on-screen keyboard to show an example):




A US English physical keyboard layout.

But, I am using it at this very moment to type using Finnish input language which has the layout shown below:




There's a simple reason I use Finnish input language as default: with it I can type all other languages I need on daily basis (Finnish, Swedish, English) except German; when typing in German there are two letters I can only type selecting German input language, Ü and ß. These two I get using my US English keyboard device from [{ and -_.

When typing English with my Finnish input language with physical US keyboard, I just have to know and remember that all special characters are typed as in Finnish keyboard, not as in US keyboard. For instance although my physical keyboard shows that to get @ sign I need to press SHIFT + 2, I know that I need AltGr + 2 instead to get the @ sign. Or, to get parenthesis ( and ) which according to my physical US keyboard would be SHIFT + 9 and SHIFT + 0, I need to press SHIFT + 8 and SHIFT + 9 instead.

Further, I need to remember that colon and semicolon key on my physical US keyboard now types ö and Ö as in Finnish layout, the ' and " key gives me ä and Ä, the [ and { key å and Å, and so on. This is not difficult especially if you do not need to watch the keyboard while typing, the only important thing being to remember which Windows input language I am currently using.

When I use German QWERTZ input method with US QWERTY physical keyboard, I need to remember that pressing Z on my keyboard types Y, and vice versa. In addition, now I get @ sign with AltGR + Q although my physical keyboard shows it being SHIFT + 2.

All the above put very short: The keyboard device's physical layout has nothing to do with the Windows input language. All localized physical keyboard devices can be used to type any chosen Windows input language. You can buy a French AZERTY keyboard device to be used with German QWERTZ input language.