Windows 10: OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

Discus and support OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; Over the weekend I setup my parents new Windows 10 desktop PC. Unfortunately, I had issues with OneDrive, possibly because I don't really understand... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by milleniumaire, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?


    Over the weekend I setup my parents new Windows 10 desktop PC. Unfortunately, I had issues with OneDrive, possibly because I don't really understand what this product is trying to do, but more likely because Microsoft are trying to force users to purchase cloud storage. Regardless, it would be great to get some info on this product and how to best set it up.

    The new Dell PC has a 256GB SSD drive, onto which is installed Windows 10 Home, and a separate, empty 1TB hard drive. I wanted to ensure that my parents data was stored on the 1TB hard drive, not on the 256GB SSD, where it would be stored by default because this is where the Documents, Pictures etc. Windows libraries point.

    So, as I've done many times in the past, I created some new folders on the 1TB hard drive for Documents, Pictures, Downloads, Desktop etc. I then went to each of the Windows 10 libraries and used the Locations tab of each (on Properties) to Move the data and directory. To my surprised, I got an error (can't remember the exact text), but it was essentially telling me I couldn't re-point the libraries. Googling showed that OneDrive was the cause of this issue. When I checked, rather than each library having a location in my LOCAL User folder i.e. physically on the 256GB SSD drive, where Windows was installed, they were pointing at a OneDrive location!

    So, my understanding of this is that, by default, this install of Windows 10 is forcing all my data to be stored on OneDrive! Does this mean there is no local backup? If I don't have internet access, am I unable to access my data, because it is in the cloud?

    To overcome this restriction, I followed a Google forum explaining how to reset the registry entries for these libraries. Having done this, I noticed a) the default local folders were empty and b) the OneDrive "backup" folder contained all my data. This seems to confirm my thoughts that the data is not being "backed up", but stored on OneDrive. This is NOT how I believe OneDrive should be used; it should be used for backing up only, not for storing the source files! Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but this is just wrong of Microsoft to do this!

    I've now successfully changed the location of the libraries, so they now point to the new folders on my 1TB drive. I then physically "Moved" the data from the OneDrive folders to the folders on the 1TB drive. When I now click on the Windows libraries; Documents, Downloads, Pictures etc. I see all the data stored on the 1TB drive.

    So, job done, except that I would now like to use OneDrive to backup the new 1TB folders. My first attempt to do this ended up with the Windows libraries being re-mapped to OneDrive - as they were at the start, so undoing all my work. What is going on Microsoft?

    I've now got it setup correctly again, but I'm at a loss how to setup OneDrive to BACKUP the folders on the 1TB drive, rather than be the SOURCE of the data.

    I would like to understand what Microsoft OneDrive is doing and how best to set it up so it doesn't backup the original Documents, Downloads etc libraries, but instead backs up the new folders I have created on the 1TB drive.

    Thanks for any explanation/advice/help you can give.

    :)
     
    milleniumaire, Mar 20, 2020
    #1
  2. pparks1 Win User

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

    I recreated what I think you wanted on a virtual machine, in a very straightforward way. Here are my steps.

    Step 1: Launch OneDrive for the first time. Click on the option at bottom to change the default location for my OneDrive to a second hard drive on my system. (if you already have oneDrive setup, go to settings and choose Unlink account to get back to this point).


    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    Step #2. Create a OneDrive folder on my E:\ drive, and select it.
    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    Step #3. Go into newly created E:\OneDrive and create folders for Desktop, Documents and Pictures.

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]

    Step #4. Go to C:\users\user\{Desktop,Documents,Pictuers} and move them to your new E:\OneDrive\{Desktop,Documents,Pictuers}

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    Step #5. Run a test, using Quick access area, create a test file on the desktop folder.


    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    Step #6. Now, go to E:\OneDrive\Desktop and verify that the file is really there

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    Step #7. Ensure the right folders are checked to Sync

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    Step #8. Optionally untick the Files on Demand feature to make 100% sure that the files are actually stored on your hard drive.

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]



    Seems pretty easy to me.
     
    pparks1, Mar 20, 2020
    #2
  3. f14tomcat Win User
    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

    @milleniumaire

    snip from your post....

    I was unable to determine any method of using OneDrive to sync these new Data folders to the cloud. The OneDrive front end only gives access to the standard library folders Desktop, Documents and Pictures, which is very restrictive!

    If you were using this:


    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]


    That's the wrong one.

    This is the option to add/remove/sync user folders/files.


    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]



    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]
     
    f14tomcat, Mar 20, 2020
    #3
  4. f14tomcat Win User

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

    @milleniumaire

    When you first setup and use OneDrive, only the default folders from MS will be there. The ones I have highlighted. All the rest I added either by creating a new folder in the OneDrive directory (folder) or by copying one to it. That simple. Then, they appear in the OneDrive Settings "Choose Folders". You can uncheck to keep the folder locally only, or check to sync to the cloud.


    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? [​IMG]
     
    f14tomcat, Mar 20, 2020
    #4
Thema:

OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

Loading...
  1. OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft? - Similar Threads - OneDrive Another complicated

  2. Is OneDrive the worst Microsoft product ever?

    in Windows 10 Software and Apps
    Is OneDrive the worst Microsoft product ever?: I was obliged to bring my desktop in to a computer tech repair shop for an unrelated matter. They dealt with the matter effectively but after a few weeks I realized that "my pictures" and "my documents" had been defaulted by Windows to OneDrive. Without any action from me...
  3. why is OneDrive so complicate to use?

    in Windows 10 Gaming
    why is OneDrive so complicate to use?: "I’ve been a subscriber to Office 365 Home for two years, and I have had 1TB of OneDrive storage available to me. However, I have never been able to upload all 900GB of personal files. OneDrive seems to choke when about 300GB of data is uploaded. I’ve tried uploading in...
  4. why is OneDrive so complicate to use?

    in Windows 10 Software and Apps
    why is OneDrive so complicate to use?: "I’ve been a subscriber to Office 365 Home for two years, and I have had 1TB of OneDrive storage available to me. However, I have never been able to upload all 900GB of personal files. OneDrive seems to choke when about 300GB of data is uploaded. I’ve tried uploading in...
  5. I gifted product from Microsoft Store to another account but it's GeoRestricted

    in Windows 10 Software and Apps
    I gifted product from Microsoft Store to another account but it's GeoRestricted: My and the recipient's accounts are both in the same region, but the recipient can't accept gift. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/i-gifted-product-from-microsoft-store-to-another/df84efc5-e74e-4164-b043-9a08f6a8928a
  6. I gifted product from Microsoft Store to another account but it's GeoRestricted

    in Microsoft Windows 10 Store
    I gifted product from Microsoft Store to another account but it's GeoRestricted: My and the recipient's accounts are both in the same region, but the recipient can't accept gift. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/i-gifted-product-from-microsoft-store-to-another/df84efc5-e74e-4164-b043-9a08f6a8928a
  7. Access OneDrive from another pc

    in Windows 10 Network and Sharing
    Access OneDrive from another pc: Hi, I had an old pc which was retiring, so I put my documents in the OneDrive. I booted my new pc and opened OneDrive, to discover the copied documents were not there... There were however some old documents from a few years back, strangely. Are there different...
  8. Microsoft account took over another pc

    in User Accounts and Family Safety
    Microsoft account took over another pc: when i was logging into another pc as family organizer my microsoft account took over that pc replacing the old user's data/email with mine i can still access all the files the old user has but how do i change the email and give it back to the original user?...
  9. OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?

    in Windows 10 Support
    OneDrive - Another over complicated product from Microsoft?: Over the weekend I setup my parents new Windows 10 desktop PC. Unfortunately, I had issues with OneDrive, possibly because I don't really understand what this product is trying to do, but more likely because Microsoft are trying to force users to purchase cloud storage....
  10. Microsoft complication

    in Windows 10 Customization
    Microsoft complication: Recently, I attempted to renew or update my Windows 10 to no avail .. afterwards to my dismay, I am seeing a Note from Microsoft saying that I need to fix it before I continue .. I do not know how to do this ..help ?? thanks...