Windows 10: Optimize SSD

Discus and support Optimize SSD in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; Actually for data only drives, the old trick we used to use to quickly defrag drives was to simply copy files to a new drive, wipe old drive and copy... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by Clint, Oct 11, 2016.

  1. jimbo45 Win User

    Optimize SSD


    Hi there

    also a good idea !!!! - I think though with large RAID arrays e.g (4, 6, 10 TB etc) that method might take a while !! but certainly feasable for more "normal" size HDD's and a lot quicker than defrag. However things like Macrium have optimized the process and speeded it up so much compared with say a Windows / File explorer copy that the backup and restore still gets my vote.

    On large RAID arrays I wouldn't even THINK of defragging them -- let the RAID hardware / I/O controller handle all that stuff - otherwise I think you'll certainly Break the array losing a LOT of data !!!!!.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Oct 14, 2016
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  2. bobfrost Win User

     
    bobfrost, Oct 14, 2016
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  3. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    SSDs do get fragmented just like a HDD.
    The difference being that SSDs have little latency retrieving data from its medium.
    Add to that the fact that every time you would defrag it you would reduce its usable life as cells wear out every time they're written to.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 14, 2016
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  4. CountMike New Member

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    Defraging HDDs puts more stress and wear on them too. One full defrag with optimizing makes them work as much as months of normal use. Particles on platters also have life span to say nothing about mechanical parts.
     
    CountMike, Oct 15, 2016
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  5. Mystere Win User
    I love how people that claim to have no experience with something can authoritatively make claims about it. If you've, as you said, *NEVER* defragged a drive, how exactly would you know whether or not makes any difference? You're like someone saying "I've never taken a vitamin in my life, so I know they are useless"

    Also bad advice. SSD's need to be TRIM'd on a regular basis, or you won't get the full capacity of the drive out of them.
     
    Mystere, Oct 15, 2016
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  6. Clint Win User
    If Windows thinks and says it needs it, why can't it do it?
     
    Clint, Oct 23, 2016
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  7. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Are we still talking about the RE partition ?

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 23, 2016
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  8. Clint Win User

    Optimize SSD

    Optimize SSD [​IMG]
     
    Clint, Oct 24, 2016
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  9. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    So, yes it's still the Recovery partition.
    Ignore it, nothing's written to it. Nothing's read from it.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 24, 2016
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  10. Clint Win User
    Why does it need it then?
     
    Clint, Oct 24, 2016
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  11. Mooly Win User
    Maybe not having a drive letter decides whether Windows throws up this 'never run... needs optimisation' message. Try deleting a drive letter on another test partition and see if that behaves the same.

    I'd say it was a notification that should not be present but changing the behaviour would probably require a rewrite of most of that part of the OS.
     
    Mooly, Oct 24, 2016
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  12. CountMike New Member
    Just a list with all storage options and gives you opportunity to defrag if you want to. It doesn't mean it has to be done. I always turn off auto defrag, never defragged manually, without any ill effects. D: and G: are partitions on one HDD that's only 6 month old but F: has been connected for 3-4 years.

    Optimize SSD [​IMG]
     
    CountMike, Oct 24, 2016
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  13. Cliff S New Member

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    Cliff S, Oct 24, 2016
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  14. CountMike New Member
    Thanks, it's from C: drive, I already got rid of one that was leftover from W7 or 8, don't remember now. I also made an MR backup with only one System reserved and main, C: partitions but never got around to restore it like that.
    This is as of now:

    Optimize SSD [​IMG]


    I'm not sure but that unalocated 903MB partition shows up on some but not other partitioning programs and can't do anything with it so my guess that it's over-provisioning space for that SSD. (Silicon Power v700).
     
    CountMike, Oct 24, 2016
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  15. Cliff S New Member
    Yep I see you have no "extras".
    Maybe if it shows up in choose drive you can at least turn it off:

    Optimize SSD [​IMG]
     
    Cliff S, Oct 24, 2016
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