Windows 10: Out of Memory with plenty free????

Discus and support Out of Memory with plenty free???? in Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance to solve the problem; Haven't tested it yet but the registry entry still exists. The Microsoft automated fixit tool on that page says it is not applicable to Win10 when it... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Performance & Maintenance' started by SylenThunder, May 18, 2015.

  1. Out of Memory with plenty free????


    The Microsoft automated fixit tool on that page says it is not applicable to Win10 when it is run
     
    mikepaterson, Oct 21, 2015
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  2. Almighty1 Win User

    I'm testing it on the next reboot... Maybe they are talking about the fixit tool and not about the manual registry editing as I do have the problem with the system lagging even with 24GB of memory when I have too many Chrome browser tabs opened which wasn't there with Windows 7 HP even with 16GB of memory.

    It's actually Microsoft Fix It that doesn't support Windows 10:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/..._and_uninstall
     
    Almighty1, Oct 21, 2015
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  3. The article and the manual fix are only valid for XP and NT - looks like this was created to fix a problem that was there until 2003, I doubt it applies to Win 10

    I am sure there is a memory leak in Win 10. I know several people with this problem
     
    mikepaterson, Oct 21, 2015
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  4. fdegrove Win User

    Out of Memory with plenty free????

    Hi,

    I fully agree that WIN10 can exhibit some strange memory problems.
    Even on machines with plenty of memory it may all of a sudden announce you to shut down some apps as it's running out of resources.
    As far as I can tell this is not a memory problem, i.e. not RAM amount related as every time I check there's plenty left.

    Now, as for the solution? I don't know. Strange thing is it seems to happen on some installation, never on others.

    The reg hack is not going to help IMHO as there's no such string there and even if you'd create one it is not clear what figures for heap size to use for xxxx, yyyy or zzzz. Unless I missed something.

    What I did discover however is that this problem seems to crop up when the install files are somehow corrupted. Once that's corrected the problem seems to vanish. At least so far and for the few occasions it occurred on my own machines.

    Hope this helps, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 22, 2015
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  5. Almighty1 Win User
    Not too sure about that one because the registry entry exists in a machine that came with Windows 7 HP and I applied it on Windows 7 and it did work. My reboot ended up in the Start Menu not working so I need to fix that first before actually seeing if it makes a difference as I have 60 tabs running in Chrome, usually when it works, I will be able to open 100 tabs without problems.
     
    Almighty1, Oct 22, 2015
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  6. Almighty1 Win User
    I have the string in mines but perhaps it's because I came from Windows 7. As for X, Y, Z, it's experimental as you set it too high, it will BSOD on bootup which is why to test something like that, you really need two machines running the same OS so you can import the registry file and fix it before exporting it back. You're not supposed to touch the x, only change y and z and this is a different article that includes every Windows OS except Windows 10... The other article specifically tells you a value for y and z:
    For 64-bit operating systems, increase the yyyy value to "20480";
    Increase the zzzz value to "1024".

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/947246
     
    Almighty1, Oct 22, 2015
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  7. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    OK, fair enough. Mines are all clean installs so I can only guess what the xxxx value could be like.

    FWIW, I re-imaged the install that gave me memory leak problems. Ran sfc /scannow which reported corruption.
    DISM wouldn't mount the wim for some mysterious reason so I extracted it and reran it from there and now it's all clean as the proverbial.
    Problem seems to have gone up in smoke and everything has been running smoothly ever since.

    Could be purely coincidental though. (Hard to tell with Win 10 sometimes)

    I've been using an all in one ISO (22 versions of Win 10 no less) and have noticed that they're all somewhat corrupted even after a fresh install. Windows doesn't complain, not even eventviewer (well nothing extraordinary anyway).
    Hence, bottomline conclusion so far, first make sure the OS is healthy then you at least know that's not the culprit.
    (Minor "features" aside that is *sarc)

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Oct 22, 2015
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  8. Almighty1 Win User

    Out of Memory with plenty free????

    I just did a in-place reinstall and trying to fix my startmenu as every new user account I create, the tiles are not correct. I wonder how is the tiledatalayer database generated as the reinstall I did a few days ago had a good tiledatalayer database. So need to fix that before the other stuff. LOL.
     
    Almighty1, Oct 22, 2015
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  9. Almighty1 Win User
    I wonder for those who clean installed, do you have a process named csrss.exe running? I did another in-place reinstall today and before I had it as 1024,20480,1024 but after Windows 10 was done installing, it changed it to 1024,20480,768.
     
    Almighty1, Oct 23, 2015
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  10. LMiller7 Win User
    csrss.exe is a critical system process. There will be one instance for system use plus one for each logged on user. You need to select "Show processes from all users" to see all of them. The process id is of no consequence. It will be different on different computers and for different sessions. The memory used by this process can vary widely and still be normal.
     
    LMiller7, Oct 23, 2015
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  11. Almighty1 Win User
    I was asking about csrss.exe because registry key
    • HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\Windows
      references csrss.exe where the Resource Heaps are adjusted:
      %SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe
      ObjectDirectory=\Windows
      SharedSection=1024,3072,512
      Windows=On
      SubSystemType=Windows
      ServerDll=basesrv,1
      ServerDll=winsrv:GdiServerDllInitialization,4
      ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3
      ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2
      ProfileControl=Off
      MaxRequestThreads=16

     
    Almighty1, Oct 23, 2015
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  12. I am, It still plagued by this issue. MS certainly have got something wrong. I can no longer run as I used to under Win 8.1is a constant fight to close apps and reduce the number pf browser pages open to prevent the regular black screen crashes that happen sometimes if you do not heed the close app popup,
     
    mikepaterson, Oct 26, 2015
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  13. Vardath Win User

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    Vardath, Feb 23, 2017
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  14. radar Win User
    radar, Jun 29, 2017
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  15. radar Win User
    I have a similar memory problem as is being discussed, here. the difference is that I do NOT get any error messages, my PC simply slows down, especially Firefox v55.0b5. Something is eating up my 16GB of RAM, based on the System Information window. I have a 2nd picture of all my active process from procesExplorer but I can't get it to paste in this message. I'll try it in a separate message.


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    radar, Jun 29, 2017
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