Windows 10: Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10

Discus and support Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10 in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; My distallation of info/speculation culled from various sources on the net. Seven versions of Windows 10 Home - Mobile - Pro - Enterprise -... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by labeeman, May 15, 2015.

  1. besb Win User

    Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10


    My distallation of info/speculation culled from various sources on the net.
    Seven versions of Windows 10
    Home - Mobile - Pro - Enterprise - Education (upgrade of Pro) -Mobile Enterprise - Other (for unique devices say ATM,s

    Home - Mobile, will have upgrades all pushed with no choice.
    Pro - Enterprise -Education ( Classed as business Use) etc. will have greater control of updates (one assumes the ability to refuse them).

    The issue for me arises over which free upgrade will be offered if upgrading Win 7 Home premium whether it will be to home or pro. I have a couple of notebooks running home premium. Win 7 Pro desktops are obviously OK.
    The reason for my concern is that if pushed I will continue to get driver updates that fail every day as is the case with my GTS450 graphics driver.
    We need to await the pricing around upgrades from home to pro if 7 home premium upgrades to 10 home.

    Addendum
    LOL I remember demanding REAL Coke for months until Coca Cola realized their stupidity
     
  2. waltc Win User

    So, who forced you to join the Insider program and install the beta OS? "Insiders" are all going to get Win10 RTM free, too, even if they don't own an upgrade OS. It's simple: they give you something, they ask for something back in return. Tit for Tat. It's part of the deal. If everyone was shutting updates down there'd be things they would be unable to test on a wide scale, so they disable the disable-updates setting in WU. Don't like it? Fine, go back to 8.1 until 10 ships--then install 10 and you can do as you like with the updates, right? If you are a registered "Insider" you will still get Win 10 free whether you continue testing or you don't. I don't know why, but a lot of people act like the Insiders program is something they paid good money for and that Win10's a finished product.
     
    waltc, May 15, 2015
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  3. This isn't the insider program, its for Win 10 when its released, new features/changes will be compulsory
     
    paulsalter, May 15, 2015
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  4. waltc Win User

    Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10

    This is what I mean...*Wink "Choice and control"...? Oh, come on...*Biggrin You are testing a *beta* OS and as such it has many limitations the final version won't have. You'll get all the choice and control you want in the final version. I mean, I thought everyone knew that...why are people confusing the Insider betas with the final product? Plus, if the Win10 beta program offends you, you can get all the "choice and control" you like with 8.1...so who forced you to join the Insiders beta OS testing program? I didn't quite catch that...What was it..."gun to the head", blackmail, what?...*Wink
     
    waltc, May 15, 2015
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  5. waltc Win User
    Sez who?

    I imagine they will be as "compulsory" as WU has always been for people. Trust me, in the RTM you will definitely have the option of picking and choosing your updates...there is no way that Microsoft can do otherwise and still have a viable OS.
     
    waltc, May 15, 2015
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  6. The first post

    There are going to be three Windows 10 servicing branches when the product launches: Current Branch (CB), Current Branch for Business (CBB) and Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB). Different versions of Windows 10 will give users access to different servicing branches.
    Those running Windows 10 Home will have just one choice -- the Current Branch. That means those users will have to take any new features, fixes and security updates that Microsoft pushes to them via Windows Update. (They will be pushed after Windows Insiders and Microsoft itself tests them.) Windows 10 Home users won't have the option of delaying or deferring anything. And for many consumers, that will be OK, if not welcome.
     
    paulsalter, May 15, 2015
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  7. besb Win User
    No - It depends on the version Installed.
    Not even MS would presume to force feature changes on major enterprises. That would ensure a backlash greater than that which the original Win 8 garnered.
    Sorry Paul I posted this before I read you post above which clarified your statement. I reacted to your one liner.
     
  8. BunnyJ New Member

    Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10

    In many cases here I think users are going to be able to get the Pro version and be able to have more control on what updates. The only issue, if there is one, will be for Home users.
     
    BunnyJ, May 15, 2015
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  9. Makes sense now why its free *Smile
    Me - A Home user - No control over updates/feature changes
    Pay to upgrade and I can control these features

    In general I have no problem with auto updates, my current machine is set todo this, its feature changes I don't like to be compulsory, I would like options for this
     
    paulsalter, May 15, 2015
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  10. waltc Win User
    I think that's utter speculation/FUD at this point. Even if there are "branches" of updates that doesn't mean a user will be forced to install an upgrade. There are several good reasons why Microsoft can't force-feed updates to Windows users...which is why they've never done it before. The main one is that hardware among systems is vastly different--you cannot force-feed updates on a universal scale--you'd have pandemonium...*Wink All kinds of problems will ensue if people are not allowed to pick and choose their updates--which is, again, why Microsoft has never forced them before. The Insiders program is only a couple million people...when Win10 goes RTM it'll be 10x that number in a month, and 10x that number again in a year, etc. and a geometric progression after that. They are doing what they are doing now because this is a beta-test program very limited in scope compared to what general availability will be, and they have systems they need to test.

    Besides, it's already true that most people leave their update settings on "automatic," anyway...*Wink I don't and never would, and many people won't. I think that some folks are looking at the Insiders beta program and extrapolating what will happen after Win10 goes RTM, and that's because they've already confused the beta program with the RTM.
     
    waltc, May 15, 2015
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  11. My best guess is these "forced updates" will be Microsoft and/or Windows updates only, I can't see MS forcing third party software such as drivers down our throats. If they do, they'll quickly have a mess on their and our hands.
     
    fracking4oil, May 15, 2015
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  12. BunnyJ New Member
    If you have a license for WIn8.1 pro you get a license for WIn10 pro so you would get more control on updates.. I hope. In my case I have the Pro edition of WIn8.1 so I can get the Win10 Pro.
     
    BunnyJ, May 15, 2015
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  13. Piecing together the Windows as a Service puzzle for Windows 10

    Think I just have the home version, just says it's windows 8.1 (no home or pro after it)

    Going to wait and see what happens, see if things get a bit more clarified
     
    paulsalter, May 15, 2015
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  14. The way I read it, even if you have Pro, you need access to Windows Update for Business to pick and chose. AKA updates via a business network. This is a deal breaker for me if I have to accept every update listed under Windows update. Especially if driver updates fall under that.
     
    alphanumeric, May 15, 2015
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  15. If it doesn't say Pro it's just 8.1 (Core). For what ever reason Microsoft just calls it 8.1, no Home no nothing. It's often referred to as the Core edition.
     
    alphanumeric, May 15, 2015
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