Windows 10: Problem After Installing Fall Creators Edition

I did do the clean install but it made no difference...still get that stupid message and prevented from installing any downloaded programs...
I guess the only chance I have is to reformat to the original hp image running that old version windows 10 1511....and then from there use the update method to move to fall creators update...though I realize even that is no guarantee...I hope I don't have to end up buying a new laptop to solve this weird problem...

I use to use Ubuntu and could go back to that of course and delete windows...but I really like windows 10 and hate to give it up *Sad

 

What type of activation do you have and how do you log in - with a local account or a Microsoft account? Post a screenshot of your activation page in Settings.

 

Digital activation...from the ms site...I did previously do a clean install of 10s version by mistake (the one that only lets you install windows store apps...However, when I re-installed clean (wiped everything) is when I noticed the problem...now I re-installed clean again and still having the problem...

Originally I did reformat to the original HP image and upgrade to latest version from there (with factory stuff left intact) but honestly, when I was running the image and when I did the upgrade, I had not tested to see if downloaded programs would install...I was having another issue , which is what set me off on the path of doing clean windows installs without the factory stuff...

as far as accounts, when I installed it had me set it to my Microsoft outlook e-mail...then I changed it over to local account with just my first name and new password....However, even before I switched to the local account, I tried it and was getting the blocking message so it doesn't seem to be related to the account...

 

If you are clean installing then it is possible the original ISO is faulty in some way. Either that or your digital activation is restricting you in some way but I think that is unlikely.

 

I would tend to think so also...wouldn't seem like the digital activation would cause the problem as I would assume that remains the same on their servers (even if I did accidentally install 10s I have since done clean installs of Windows Home Edition and each had no problem activating)...

In fact, I wanted to re-download the Fall Creators Update using the Media Creation Tool, and use that (just in case, as you mentioned that possibly it could be the download itself that is causing the problem) but guess what? Although I could download the tool, the stupid BLOCK is preventing me from opening it (and that's an MS tool).....so as you can see, it's blocking me from installing ANYTHING....

So, since I can't download another copy (which i'd love to do first) looks like I will be stuck doing the long, round about way (Re-formatting and then upgrading)...

 

Or find a friend who will let you download the ISO - you can specify that you want to download for another device and you just have to be extra careful to specify the right version, and language for your own system so that it matches the digital license from when you originally activated your laptop with W10.

 

Thank you philc43...Unfortunately, I can't get to anyone currently to download It for me...It's a shame as this clean copy is running beautifully, except for the "block problem"...At least with going with the re-format to HP image and then upgrading, I won't have to worry about exactly matching the edition that MS has on record for the digital license...

 

Try opening Event Viewer, Look at Windows Logs > System then filter the current log by source, ticking the boxes for all 'Security...' event sources. This may give a clue as to how it is blocking you.

 

I looked at it but can't figure out where to go to on it...not that computer "savvy" unfortunately...so, guess I will be stuck going the long way around this...*Sad

 

Apparently same underlying issue after a clean install here:
An administrator has blocked you from running this app Fall Creator's - Windows 10 Forums

 

Mine is different, actually...it only happens when you download a program, and try to install it....a special UAC Window pops up which, instead of asking if you give permission or not (yes/no) it says " YOUR ORGANIZATION USED WINDOWS DEFENDER APPLICATION CONTROL TO BLOCK THIS APP"....

So, it is really an entirely different problem...

I just got finished re-formatting the original HP factory image to my laptop...It has Mcaffee running for protection, (with 30 day trial) but I am going to delete it so Windows Defender will come back on...should not be a problem now...I am running the old 1511 version of windows 10...Probably tomorrow I will do the UPGRADE (not clean install) using the Upgrade Assistant and my HOPE is that since I am doing it with the original OEM image, UAC will not block installations and come up with that stupid pop up window...fingers crossed!

I hated to do this, since other than that, the clean install was working beautifully, but I figured my best shot at getting around this was to do it this way...

 

Well, I did the reformat on my hp laptop and after getting rid of the 30 day trial (pay) Norton antivirus, Defender re-activated and I had no problems installing programs after I downloaded them on the original windows 1511 version that was on my computer when I bought it...

However, the problem I had with the network connection dropping out for a second every few minutes was back...
Then, I did the upgrade to Fall Creators Edition using the Update Assistant...

Once I was in it...guess what? The stupid window from the UAC was back with that message again and would not let me install a program I wanted...So, for me, apparently the bug relates to the installation of the newest version of "10"...so, even though I upgraded with the original factory install, it made no difference (over the clean installs I did previous)...

And I had posted to the microwave forums and someone from ms suggested I turn off smartscreen in defender but that does not help...
Now, I am really stuck and tired of re-installing clean versions, HP original versions, etc....and this does not seem to have any easy or obvious solution...

Very frustrated at this point...if I roll it back, I am back in the now ancient 1511 version which is no longer going to get security updates...I can't even go back to the previous version of 10 since it isn't available for download anymore...

I use to use Ubuntu but I really love windows 10...I have a feeling I'm going to have to end up re-installing Ubuntu and deleting windows altogether...The only other solution would be to buy a new laptop....but this one isn't that old and I'd hate to have to discard it...

 

Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. For the 1703 ISO, try the Heidoc tool. It generates links to download direct from Microsoft.

https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techno...-download-tool

 

Thanks Bree...I did send a reply to that ms guy on the ms support forum...so I will see if he can offer any other suggestions...but at this point I am almost ready to give it up on windows and go back to Ubuntu...I shouldn't have to buy a new HP laptop (when one becomes available with the new version) just to get around the problem...My HP is fine and not even that old...

The only other alternative I can think of is to (yikes) reformat again back to the original HP image with 1511, remove Norton but perhaps if I, say installed Avast free and brought that over with me to the upgrade, it might make a difference?
I wonder how it works when you use another virus protector? Does the MS UAC still come up?

PS...reformats on my computer take almost 5 hrs to complete from the time I feed in all 5 discs, until it completes everything it does after that..it's a real pain...

And of course, I can't try installing avast on my current install since now that I am in the latest version, UAC will block me...(which also means I can't do anything with that link you sent me for same reason).....

 

I'm thinking as a last ditch effort, to do a clean install with the new disc I downloaded this afternoon before doing the upgrade (doubt if it will make a difference but worth a shot) and if that doesn't make a difference, i'd like to try installing Avast to see if that would stop it since it seems the block comes from defender itself (based on the message the window says)...

Also, it would eliminate the internet dropping problem I have on the original hp install...

Only thing is i'd need to know how to turn windows defender off...does anyone know an easy way to turn off and turn on Windows Defender?