Windows 10: problem with upgrade to windows 10 home, version 1511, 10586

Microsoft has pulled the Windows 10 November Update from Windows Update

 

Thanks for that info Almighty 1, my laptop updated just fine. It's a refurbished Latitude E6400 vintage mid 2008 I bought from newegg a couple years ago. It came with Win7 Pro and I upgraded it to W10 Pro right after the RTM came out. Used windows update for the upgrade, both times windows update has worked fine to upgrade my laptop.

The problem is with my desktop, it upgraded fine from Win7 Home to W10 Home with WU, but the Nov. update stopped at 66% the times it would even get that far.

If Microsoft is going to depend on windows update to upgrade their W10 OS, it needs to work every time, with very few exceptions. There are some on this forum that had no problems with the windows update upgrade, others used an iso to upgrade, or performed a clean install. Nothing wrong with either of those, but most users don't really care about doing the last two choices. They just want things to work how they're supposed to when doing basic tasks such as windows update.

 

The thing with using Windows Update is that if you have a slow vintage DSL connection like I do a 6Mbps down, it will take forever to download. And one thing I know is that if one needed to fix windows with a in-place upgrade repair on a system that already has 10586.x using either the MCT or the TechBench ISO which will basically be 10240 and selected to download updates, that means the install will take forever as first it needs to download all the updates including the 3GB-4GB 10586 update which will take forever and if the update doesn't download, then they basically repaired a 10586 system with 10240.

 

What does this mean exactly - what implications will it have for those who have (with heartache) managed to upgrade to the November Update? Will we have to go through the whole upgrade process again when a 'proper' update appears?

 

It would help if you read the link as it has updates...

Microsoft explains disappearance of the Windows 10 November Update from Media tool

 

Thanks Almighty1, I missed the link - all clear now.

 

If I was to use this method (Having the problem myself) would I need my activation key? This is because my computer came with windows pre-installed. If I do need my activation key, is there a way for me to get it?

 

If Windows 10 is already installed and activated, then you can reinstall any time without using a key (click skip or do it later). As long as you install the same version (Home or Pro) it should activate automatically again. If you want to see the key there are several utilities such as ShowKey Plus. If you upgraded free form an earlier Windows version, it will be a generic key.

 

I found out months ago that anti virus had to be turned off to do Win 10 upgrades.

Now I'm upgrading a second PC to 1511 and the PC seems to be going batty. Hours after being kicked off it prompted me to login to an account, and the screen has been black since. I can force task manager to start but then I see the 'explorer' screen constantly being redrawn, and no clear idea of what Windows is doing. I see 'app control' and Windows Error Reporting' using a fair amount of CPU, also antimalware (Defender). Anyone know what it's doing?

 

I've never had to disable AV to get Windows 10 updates to install. I'm using ESET, Avast Free, and Symantec EP on multiple systems without having to disable.

 

This is a risk. Normally, it should not interfere with the Upgrade, but I have past experiences that the antivirus tried to check something during an installation and screwed things! I had to use System Restore to return to a previous working state. So it doesn't harm to turn it off, or even uninstall it!

 

It's an ongoing quirk; when you do version updates if Defender or MSIE are running, the updates tend to fail with weird error messages.

 

Under 1511, my PC went berserk after the upgrade finished. I've pinned the problem down to Explorer.exe crashing a few times per minute and restarting. Makes it near impossible to navigate through directories when the screen redraws and all explorer windows disappear and you have to start from scratch. I've managed to get some apps installed, painfully. Even typing this is hard because Chrome keeps losing focus. Also, IE and Edge are unusable; they crash, yet Chrome and Firefox work nicely. Installing Java won't go, probably explorer related.

Win 10 Pro, now running 1511 10586 sort of. Home brew box with an I7 and P8P67 Deluxe mobo, corsair psu, Nvidia 450. Can't get windows event viewer open. Did get autoruns in, eliminated duplicate entries from startup. Try to install Office 365, says it's done, but it's not there.

Any ideas greatly appreciated!