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Apple Lossless not support on WP8?

Hi,

I'm in the same boat as you as my music library is mostly Apple Lossless encoded. I'd prefer FLAC, but due to iTunes and my previous iPhones/iPads it has to be ALAC.

Since I'm on a Mac I was glad to learn that Apple lossless support has been advertised in various news and change logs since version 1.1 of the official Windows Phone Connector app for Mac. It turns out though that by ALAC "support" Microsoft actually
means the ability to transcode those lossless files to a lossy format. Judging by file size on the device, I guess 192 Kbit/s M4A or variable bitrate, but certainly not lossless. Also, you don't have any option to select a format/bitrate to transcode to. As
far as I know this feature (if you really want to call it that) is only available on Mac.

Your only option to get lossless audio on the device seems to be WMA lossless - which for me is an absolute no-go. Apple Lossless might already be niche compared to FLAC, but WMA lossless? I've never seen one of those in the wild and I won't transcode
my ALAC files to a format absolutely nobody cares for or supports.

However if you're willing to transcode to WMA lossless you shouldn't have any problem doing it. Just be aware of the fact that those WMA files, of course, won't be available in iTunes meaning you have to transfer them via Explorer (guessing you are using
Windows?).

The lossless situation is terrible right now and I don't see why an apparently easy task like adding another codec to the spec list isn't happening. I understand that the demand for lossless audio comes from a small crowd, however these folks tend to be
serious about these issues and other options are readily available: Apple has ALAC, Android plays FLAC (maybe even ALAC?). Me, I'm just sticking with Windows Phone since I otherwise like the OS and am confident that Microsoft will fill these gaps.

I also just purchased the Nokia 920, with the promise that I could bring my songs into the Microsoft fold. I'm not to happy with this outcome regarding ALAC, I have about 20,000 songs, about 80% of them are from my CD collection ripped in Apple Lossless format,
and no I am not on a Mac. These are the kinds of maneuvers that make it difficult to switch from an iOS device to a Windows phone. I'm not looking forward to converting all my songs, and the double disk space we are talking about, plus the hours just to
get some music on this phone. Microsoft should be doing anything and everything to accommodate a switchover, and ALAC support doesn't seem too much to ask.

Gotta love the ambiguous c00d5212 errors all over the place, and the lovely way the phone flips through songs like an old animation cartoon as it's hitting each song.



I'd be okay if the Windows Phone desktop app nicely down sampled the song to play on the device, but alas no option for that.

 

Apple Lossless not support on WP8?

Hi,

I'm in the same boat as you as my music library is mostly Apple Lossless encoded. I'd prefer FLAC, but due to iTunes and my previous iPhones/iPads it has to be ALAC.

Since I'm on a Mac I was glad to learn that Apple lossless support has been advertised in various news and change logs since version 1.1 of the official Windows Phone Connector app for Mac. It turns out though that by ALAC "support" Microsoft actually
means the ability to transcode those lossless files to a lossy format. Judging by file size on the device, I guess 192 Kbit/s M4A or variable bitrate, but certainly not lossless. Also, you don't have any option to select a format/bitrate to transcode to. As
far as I know this feature (if you really want to call it that) is only available on Mac.

Your only option to get lossless audio on the device seems to be WMA lossless - which for me is an absolute no-go. Apple Lossless might already be niche compared to FLAC, but WMA lossless? I've never seen one of those in the wild and I won't transcode
my ALAC files to a format absolutely nobody cares for or supports.

However if you're willing to transcode to WMA lossless you shouldn't have any problem doing it. Just be aware of the fact that those WMA files, of course, won't be available in iTunes meaning you have to transfer them via Explorer (guessing you are using
Windows?).

The lossless situation is terrible right now and I don't see why an apparently easy task like adding another codec to the spec list isn't happening. I understand that the demand for lossless audio comes from a small crowd, however these folks tend to be
serious about these issues and other options are readily available: Apple has ALAC, Android plays FLAC (maybe even ALAC?). Me, I'm just sticking with Windows Phone since I otherwise like the OS and am confident that Microsoft will fill these gaps.

 

Nokia N95-8GB, won't play Apple Lossless.

Forgot to say...

Although the N95-8GB doesn't natively support the Apple Lossless format, as it is an S60 device, there is plenty of opportunity for third parties to write software that will play the Apple Lossless format on the device. Therefore this does add to the list of
options.