Windows 10: Random BSODs/Crashes after Latest Cumulative updates (1703).

Discus and support Random BSODs/Crashes after Latest Cumulative updates (1703). in Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging to solve the problem; I have been getting BSODs and crashes after the latest cumulative updates for 1703 (KB4023057, KB4033631, KB4074592, KB4073543). This was the only... Discussion in 'Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging' started by Declio, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Declio Win User

    Random BSODs/Crashes after Latest Cumulative updates (1703).


    I have been getting BSODs and crashes after the latest cumulative updates for 1703 (KB4023057, KB4033631, KB4074592, KB4073543). This was the only change that happened to my PC since the crashes started, so I figured they were the culprit.

    I uninstalled all of those updates and the problem seemed to go away. I was able to play without crashes or BSODs for multiple days. As expected, W10 forced the updates back on a day or two ago. Once again, I started BSODing again.

    I am able to identify and prevent the updates from coming again using WUSHOWHIDE. My question is--if I block these security and cumulative updates from WUSHOWHIDE, will I still receive future cumulative/security updates? Or will this prevent all future updates from coming? I'd like to be able to receive future updates, but definitely want to skip these for now since they are giving me problems.

    Thanks.

    :)
     
    Declio, Feb 25, 2018
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  2. Paul_home Win User

    Windows 10 feature 1709 fails to install

    HI,

    thanks very much for the feedback.

    Unfortunately it did not help. I ran the Windows Update trouble shooter. I then went to windows update and tried to install the latest update. It installed a Cumulative update for 1703 (kb4057144) and tried to install feature 1709 again but this failed with
    the same issue - BSOD after 100% complete an laptop reboots.

    Again no system dump was created, even though they are enabled.

    any other ideas? Maybe just my laptop is not compatible with this release....

    cheers

    Paul
     
    Paul_home, Feb 25, 2018
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  3. windows updates

    Hello Online Community,

    I also just had to randomly recover my Bios and use the Windows Auto Repair Diagnostic tool to get my HP Windows 10 Pro Creators Edition to load. It went to a random bright screen and was completely frozen. I ran my HP diagnostics USB and at first it said
    that there was a 2 part test on the HDD and the 2nd part said failed that the hard drive was in failure. However it is brand new and not the case. I wondered what could have caused this. Now I see that all of the sudden after recovering that the Sound Card
    updated as well as about 10 different windows 10 updates are now downloading. I have checked non stop for days and no new updates

    Currently I am at 10% downloading 2017-07 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4025342). I don't see any information on it. I also just got a bunch of updates for my Office 2007. However I did all those updates days ago.
    These updates are so random. If I didn't know what to do the computer would be completely ruined right now. I shouldn't have to crash just to get the security updates that I'm now getting thank god.

    Please speed up the process on the updates for Office older editions and please don't crash the system's when updates are pushing through. That just scared me to death near about. I fixed the issue.

    I'm now at 30% downloading on this random update 2017-07 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4025342)

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    More Office 2007 security updates

    Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems

    Still at 30% downloading on Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems as I type. I have speeds into the 150Mbps and unmetered. I don't understand the wait time.

    Thanks

    Scott
     
    ScottieTomlinson, Feb 25, 2018
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  4. axe0 New Member

    Random BSODs/Crashes after Latest Cumulative updates (1703).

    Hi Declio,

    Welcome to 10Forums.

    It depends on if future updates require those updates you're blocking, there's also a chance those updates will be replaced with other updates that may or may not cause trouble.

    You're sure all those updates cause this problem, not just one of them?
     
  5. Declio Win User
    Hello,

    I'm not certain which one (or all) of the updates are causing the issue. I went with the nuclear option both times and removed all of them. I would have to guess that it is the cumulative update and not the security one (hope not at least!). To be honest though, I'm not sure I would like to spend the time uninstalling one at a time.

    If I continue to have issues with updates in the future, I may do a clean install of 1709. I had lots of gsync/multiple monitor problems with the latest version of the FCU, so I reverted to 1703 which has been performing fine. It has probably been long enough since I've tried 1709 to give a fresh install another go, but for now I will stick with 1703 and update this thread if I get any new information in the future.

    Thanks!
     
    Declio, Feb 26, 2018
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  6. axe0 New Member
    Speaking from personal experience with 1709, I would encourage you to skip 1709. I've had some issues with 1709 due to for me unwanted changes that are implemented such as extra load on the boot time because they think it's convenient to open the last closed app immediately after logging in, loading chrome with 25 tabs actually makes me wait longer for the system to load. Another one is the forced installs about 3D stuff which is completely useless for me and caused performance/stability issues.
     
  7. Declio Win User
    So the one update that I could not block with wushowhide came back today-- it is KB407592. It installed itself and I again started experiencing BSODs.

    This is very frustrating since it doesn't appear that I can block this update with wushowhide (it doesn't show up in the list--all of the other updates that came on that same day did show up in wushowhide and i successfully blocked them) and I'm on Home edition of windows so I don't think I have any other way to block W10 updates?

    The strange part about this particular update is that in my update history, it shows as the cumulative update (2018-02 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1703 for x64-based Systems (KB4074592))

    However, when I go to the uninstall screen, it shows as a "security update." I'm not sure why it's showing up as different things on each screen.

    The only thing I have found googling this update is this article which does point out some BSOD issues: Windows 10 Cumulative Update KB4074592 Issues

    Can I do anything else to block this particular update?
     
    Declio, Feb 27, 2018
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  8. Bree New Member

    Random BSODs/Crashes after Latest Cumulative updates (1703).

    That is perfectly normal, it's just the way Microsoft do it. The uninstall screen in part of Control Panel and it uses an older style of naming than the newer Settings app. In fact, if you open a command prompt and type the SYSTEMINFO command you'll see an even older naming convention, they are all listed as 'Hotfix(s)'.

    The key identifier is the KB number, uninstall the 'security update' with the correct KB number and you are uninstalling the cumulative update.

    I see from your post on another thread here that you are having problems hiding this particular update, you're not seeing it listed in wushowhide. You cannot hide an update that is already installed, only updates that are 'available for this PC' can be hidden. This may be because windows update is sneaking it in again before you have a chance to hide it. I would first set a metered connection to prevent this, then uninstall KB4074592. After the reboot use wushowhide immediately, you should see it listed then and be able to hide it.

    Of course, the preferred solution would be to fix the BSOD that KB4074592 causes on your machine. If you leave it installed and follow the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions after a BSOD there are some knowledgeable experts here (others, not me) who can analyse it for you and suggest solutions.

    Edit: KB4077528 was superseded by KB4077528 on 22 February. This newer cumulative update may have fixed the problems that caused your BSOD.
     
    Bree, Apr 5, 2018
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