Windows 10: Randomly BSOD

Discus and support Randomly BSOD in Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging to solve the problem; Attachment 151674 Haven't seen the Memtest86+ version 5.01 yet. WHEA 0x124 is usually hardware so all hardware needs to be ruled in / ruled out.... Discussion in 'Windows 10 BSOD Crashes and Debugging' started by higgsbizonu, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. Randomly BSOD

    higgsbizonu, Sep 2, 2017
    #46

  2. Attachment 151674
    I tested 41 minutes. It was always 74 degrees card.but the clock speed was between 1200-1250MHz not 1360Mhz

    but 3dmark fire strike test very succesful

    AMD Radeon RX 580 video card benchmark result - AMD Ryzen 5 1500X,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd B350 TOMAHAWK (MS-7A34)
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 2, 2017
    #47
  3. zbook New Member
    When available please post an image of memtest86+ version 5.01 for 8 or more passes.

    Please read these links on windows driver verifier:

    See the 3 methods to turn off windows driver verifier.
    If not already downloaded and installed please install each:

    Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.
    Resplendence Software - WhoCrashed, automatic crash dump analyzer

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...3-c48669e4c983

    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials



    Before using windows driver verifier:
    1) Make sure all files are backed up to another drive or to the cloud.
    2) Use Macrium to make a backup image:
    Macrium Software | Your Image is Everything
    3) Save the image to another drive or to the cloud
    4) Create a brand new restore point.



    Please post the chkdsk /x /f /r results:
    Read Chkdsk Log in Event Viewer in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials


    Please open the bios:

    What are the BIOS 3.3, 5 and 12 voltage values?

    What are the CPU voltage and frequency?

    Please use a camera or smart phone camera to take a picture and post images into the thread.
     
    zbook, Sep 2, 2017
    #48
  4. Randomly BSOD

    I used the Enable and Disable Driver Verifier, but nothing happened.
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 2, 2017
    #49
  5. I wrote the voltage values yesterday.

    Message :


    Checking file system on C:
    The type of the file system is NTFS.


    A disk check has been scheduled.
    Windows will now check the disk.


    Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
    166144 file records processed.
    File verification completed.
    4325 large file records processed.
    0 bad file records processed.


    Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
    228050 index entries processed.
    Index verification completed.
    0 unindexed files scanned.
    0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.


    Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
    Cleaning up 646 unused index entries from index $SII of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 646 unused index entries from index $SDH of file 0x9.
    Cleaning up 646 unused security descriptors.
    Security descriptor verification completed.
    30954 data files processed.
    CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
    34310936 USN bytes processed.
    Usn Journal verification completed.


    Stage 4: Looking for bad clusters in user file data ...
    166128 files processed.
    File data verification completed.


    Stage 5: Looking for bad, free clusters ...
    19458094 free clusters processed.
    Free space verification is complete.


    Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
    No further action is required.


    116639743 KB total disk space.
    38443636 KB in 116887 files.
    92436 KB in 30955 indexes.
    0 KB in bad sectors.
    271291 KB in use by the system.
    65536 KB occupied by the log file.
    77832380 KB available on disk.


    4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
    29159935 total allocation units on disk.
    19458095 allocation units available on disk.


    Internal Info:
    00 89 02 00 8d 41 02 00 35 ae 04 00 00 00 00 00 .....A..5.......
    9c 00 00 00 70 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ....p...........


    Windows has finished checking your disk.
    Please wait while your computer restarts.
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 2, 2017
    #50
  6. zbook New Member
    1) Instead of using software please open the bios to view the data > use a camera to take pictures > post images into the thread

    2) post chkdsk report into the thread

    3) post images of memtest86+ version 5.01 for > or = 8 passes in the thread (the more passes the better)

    4) windows driver verifer: run for 48 hours to check drivers.
     
    zbook, Sep 2, 2017
    #51
  7. Will the backplane control itself? Do not you have to do something?
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 2, 2017
    #52
  8. zbook New Member

    Randomly BSOD

    Please rephrase the questions.
     
    zbook, Sep 2, 2017
    #53
  9. zbook New Member
    For windows driver verifier please use the custom settings in this link:

    Microsoft Community

    Whenever there is a bsod please post a new zip:

    BSOD - Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums

    These are the 3 methods to turn off windows driver verifier: (they should be used in this order only if the previous step fails to turn off windows driver verifier)

    1) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > startup options (not startup repair) > select #6 safe mode with command prompt > type: verifier /reset
    2) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > command prompt > Administrator X:\windows\system32\cmd.exe > verifier /bootmode resetonbootfail
    3) windows advanced troubleshooting menu > restore

    The 3rd step leads to a loss of the mini dump file and little progress is made in the throubleshooting. So this step should only be used when the others fail to turn off windows driver verifier.
     
    zbook, Sep 2, 2017
    #54
  10. Attachment 151979

    I tested for 8 hours.

    I know I have not passed 8 but I do not have that much time.
    It takes 18-19 hours
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 4, 2017
    #55
  11. zbook New Member
    There is little if any value in the test if you don't meet the criteria for a valid test.

    For every test there are:
    true positives.........................errors with malfunctioning RAM /DIMM / Motherboard
    true negatives.......................no errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false positives.......................errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false negatives......................no errors with malfunctioning RAM / DIMM / Motherboard
    accuracy................................mathematical calculation of the above 4 parameters

    If you use Memtest86+ for 8 or more passes then you reduce the false negatives and make the test useful.
    If you use Memtest86+ for less than 8 passes the false negative rate can be significant so those test are not used.

    A false negative again is a test result of pass when there is malfunctioning RAM, DIMM /Motherboard
    The number of passes was insufficient. Sometimes it takes 20 + passes to display errors.

    You can test 1 RAM module at a time to reduce testing time but then you do not test multichannel functionality.
    You can rule in / rule out faulty RAM by testing 1 module at a time for 8 or more passes.
    Testing for less than 8 passes is wasting time as the testing is inadequate.

    Microsoft Community


    MemTest86+ - Test RAM Windows 10 BSOD Tutorials
     
    zbook, Sep 4, 2017
    #56
  12. I will take a photo when I see 8 pass and I will go to ESC.
    is there anything going to happen?

    Does it mean that when I see 8 passes, it's smooth?

    i did not understand them

    There is little if any value in the test if you don't meet the criteria for a valid test.

    For every test there are:
    true positives.........................errors with malfunctioning RAM /DIMM / Motherboard
    true negatives.......................no errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false positives.......................errors with normally functioning RAM /DIMM /Motherboard
    false negatives......................no errors with malfunctioning RAM / DIMM / Motherboard
    accuracy................................mathematical calculation of the above 4 parameters
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 4, 2017
    #57
  13. zbook New Member

    Randomly BSOD

    For each test it must meet certain testing requirements.
    If there is just 1 error that is a fail and you can abort testing.
    If there are no errors the more the passes the better the test as the more passes the less likely there is a false negative.
    There have been some tests where there were no errors until there were passes in the 20's.
    So we use a minimum of 8 passes and the more the better.
    You are attempting to evaluate the RAM /DIMM /Motherboard with the memtest86+ version 5.01 software algorithm.
    When the software has made 8 or more passes please use a camera or smart phone camera to take a picture and post an image into the thread.
     
    zbook, Sep 4, 2017
    #58
  14. Attachment 152122
     
    higgsbizonu, Sep 5, 2017
    #59
  15. zbook New Member
    Okay 16 GB RAM tested for 8 passes with 0 errors.
    Make a brand new restore point.
    Use Macrium to make a backup image of the drive and place the image on another drive or the cloud.
    Macrium Software | Your Image is Everything
    Turn on Windows driver verifier.
    Use these customized settings: Microsoft Community
    Review the 3 methods to turn off Windows drive verifier.
    Enable and Disable Driver Verifier in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials
    Download and install if not already done both Bluescreenview and Whocrashed.
    Blue screen of death (STOP error) information in dump files.
    Resplendence Software - WhoCrashed, automatic crash dump analyzer
    For any new BSOD please post a new zip: Posting Instructions - Windows 10 Forums
     
    zbook, Sep 5, 2017
    #60
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