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    Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing


    Read more: Revealed! The crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing | ZDNet
     
    Brink, Jan 6, 2016
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  2. OldMike65 Win User

    Good article Shawn!!!! Thanks.....*Thumbs

    :)
     
    OldMike65, Jan 6, 2016
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  3. verpies Win User
    E72 software v52.005 Leaks Information even when Locked

    Nokia E72 with the newest firmware software v52.005 leaks information even when it is locked with the Lock Code.



    Namely, the missed call/text message notification on the home screen reveals the full details of the caller/sender even when the phone is locked with the Lock Code.



    By Comparison the firmware software v500.21.009 for the previous model, the Nokia E71, does not reveal the details of the caller/sender when the phone is locked. Only the message count is revealed without the Lock Code on E71 with this firmware.



    Revealing this information on E72 is a violation of user's privacy. Imagine your jealous girfriend having a fit because she saw that your ex-girfriend has sent you a message despite that the phone was locked!
     
    verpies, Jan 6, 2016
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  4. Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

    Windows updates download but wont install

    Running the troubleshooter reveals "windows update database error" How do I fix it?

    I have the latest creator version of W10

    Moved from: Windows / Windows 10 / Security & privacy
     
    ronaldsticklesYH, Jan 6, 2016
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  5. dencal Win User
    Unfortunately this article will not dispel the paranoia that those with privacy issues feel.
     
    dencal, Jan 6, 2016
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  6. I think those people have privacy issues, not Windows...
     
    Olivir2014, Jan 7, 2016
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  7. siepo Win User
    You may call it analytics, but it is still data collection, and I do not like it. The data may be anonymized, but in many cases it will still be possible to uniquely identify people.
    And should we just trust Microsoft on their say-so that the collected data are innocuous, now and in perpetuity?
    Even basic data collection should be opt-out.
     
    siepo, Jan 7, 2016
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  8. DoItJust Win User

    Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

    It's a Brave New World. That's not so new these days

    Google have done it for a long time
    Apple have done it for a long time
    Many others have done it for a long time

    MS finally caught on, you can't blame them for this.
     
    DoItJust, Jan 7, 2016
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  9. unifex Win User
    Windows 7 also contains all kinds of telemetry, but one can turn it all off if one is so preoccupied with privacy, or simply wants to reduce the bandwidth usage. Apparently in Windows 10 it's not so easy and some say impossible. That's the real controversy in my opinion. The quoted article does not offer anything new on that point.
     
    unifex, Jan 7, 2016
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  10. Couldn't agree more, some people are such conspiracy theorists...
     
    joedaman633, Jan 7, 2016
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  11. SonicMojo Win User
    While I generally like Ed Bott and his articles - unless he has seen Windows source code, can confirm 110% on what exactly is being collected by that code and finally - what MS is actually doing with that data - I call it a privacy issue.

    Of course MS is going to say publicly that it's simply "telemetry data". What else are they going to say - really. I am certain their lawyers have drafted an exacting elevator speech to be used anytime the general public comes sniffing around on this topic.

    Still - the strangest part of this entire debacle is why a Win 10 Enterprise user can ensure MS gets zero "data" but Joe Public user has no recourse but to dial things back to minimal.

    Sonic.
     
    SonicMojo, Jan 7, 2016
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  12. Drybonz Win User
    That's right... it's called metadata... the same thing the NSA is not supposed to be collecting but does anyway. As someone else said, above, MS isn't the only company that engages in metadata collection, and many people are just fine with it as long as you give them cable television and an iPhone, they are content with just about anything... which is why companies are able to continue collecting metadata. It won't stop and will only get worse until people get angry about it. The article in the original post is obviously written by someone who is content with data collection and wants to encourage other people to be just as content.
     
    Drybonz, Jan 8, 2016
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  13. Revealed! Crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

    Unforunately, Ed Bott, in his determination to whitewash the whole spying controversy, is confusing terms -- to defend MS collecting data on us all.

    What he is talking about, even though he uses the term "analytics" is really nothing more than data analysis -- and that analysis concerns what is DONE with the data. It does not excuse, nor does it justify, collecting data on folks.

    Let's suppose I was able to access your bank records for the past 90 days, and not only yours, but everyone you know -- and ALL I did with that information was generate graphs of product purchasing trends -- what kinds of items, what price ranges, how often purchased, etc. And, I then used that information to inform product manufacturers of the relative successes of their product in the recent marketplaces. That's -- data analysis, or what Ed Bott and MS prefer to call "analytics".

    Does that mean I did not SPY on your financial information, insofar as I collected it without getting your specific permission for each item, ahead of time. NO! I DID spy on you -- the fact that I did not use any of your personal identity information for nefarious purposes, or for personal gain, has nothing whatsoever to do with WHAT I did, only WHY I did it.

    MS collects personal data -- their previous admissions and written statements make this clear -- that they use it ONLY to do data analysis (for which, BTW, we only have their word and the word of their defenders), does not change the fact that it is still spying on folks.
     
    Mark Phelps, Jan 8, 2016
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  14. SonicMojo Win User
    The only data I am willing to ever "share" with MS - or any software company - is the data collected concerned when I purchased my licenses. Put those figures in some spreadsheet somewhere and do with it what you will.

    If I need help - I will reach out to you.

    Sonic.
     
    SonicMojo, Jan 8, 2016
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  15. gator2013 Win User
    Mark, I agree with you 100%

    What amazes me is how many people just don't care.*Eek

    I am not paranoid but facts are facts and legislation regarding this type of data collection is decades behind where it should be.
     
    gator2013, Jan 8, 2016
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