Windows 10: Samsung Magician

Discus and support Samsung Magician in Windows 10 Software and Apps to solve the problem; I just tested Defrag for SSD on 2 devices. Either the possible other processes we talked about are so fast that I could not see what else was going on... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Software and Apps' started by Clintlgm, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Clintlgm Win User

    Samsung Magician


    *Ditto and garbage collection controlled by the firmware goes on in the background while the SSD is Idle, this is why we used to have to over-provision to make space for this. nowadays the extra space is built in so we don't require over provisioning any longer.

    More on Rapid mode Should I enable Rapid Mode on my new 1 TB Samsung 850 Pro SSD? Solved - Windows 10 Forums
     
    Clintlgm, Apr 5, 2018
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  2. cereberus Win User

    Actually, that is not entirely true - it does a partial defrag now and then to keep the NTFS file system in good shape.

    :)
     
    cereberus, Apr 7, 2018
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  3. How to Enable AHCI for SSD in Windows 10.

    AHCI mode looks enabled on Bios, but disabled on Samsung Magician. Also read and write values looks correct. What gives? Is it a bug on Samsung Magician?
     
    TırtoBrass, Apr 7, 2018
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  4. DaveM121 Win User

    Samsung Magician

    BSOD UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP EXCEPTION_DOUBLE_FAULT 'probably caused by SamsungRapidDiskFltr.sys'

    Hi Ban, are you running a Samsung SSD & Samsung Magician 4.4, with RAPID mode turned on.

    If so Updating the Samsung Magician software should get rid of the BSOD's according to the Samsung forum . . .
     
    DaveM121, Apr 7, 2018
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  5. Oh! Has not done this for me even when doing the defrag manually.
     
    slicendice, Apr 7, 2018
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  6. cereberus Win User
    I think it just does it but never tells you. As I understand it, it does not defrag in the classic sense of moving data around, but cleans up the NTFS file system that gets fragmented over time.

    There is the legendary Hanselman post that way overhyped this, and reality is mere mortals probably never get anywhere near the limit of NTFS file fragmentation to require NTFS defragmentation, but it seems Windows does it anyway. I am guessing MS do this to ensure a problem never arises (and to avoid any criticism?).
     
    cereberus, Apr 7, 2018
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  7. I just tested Defrag for SSD on 2 devices. Either the possible other processes we talked about are so fast that I could not see what else was going on or it only did a single TRIM command. Exactly as it should be. *Smile
     
    slicendice, Apr 7, 2018
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  8. fdegrove Win User

    Samsung Magician

    Hi,

    SM uses Windows "Optimize" under the hood actually.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Apr 7, 2018
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  9. LOL, so then it's only useful for firmware upgrades. HAHAH!
     
    slicendice, Apr 7, 2018
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  10. kado897 Win User
    I did it too. It did a bit of scanning then a TRIM command flashed up.
     
    kado897, Apr 7, 2018
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  11. cereberus Win User
    The point is that it does an ssd ntfs file system defrag frequently enough that you can never detect it ever being done.

    The real and complete story - Does Windows defragment your SSD? - Scott Hanselman
     
    cereberus, Apr 7, 2018
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  12. Yes, it seems it's only good for keeping firmware up to date (which is good though).


    HAHAH! On my 750GB spinner, my MFT is 15.58GB and contains 16341503 records. It only contains 31415 files. THAT is a lot of records and space used. I guess it's because it's a compressed drive. *Smile
     
    slicendice, Apr 7, 2018
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  13. Samsung Magician

    I just remove Magician . Now I will not have to fool with it every time there is a CU. I always have had to remove it or the update would fail.
     
    Josey Wales, Apr 7, 2018
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  14. Cliff S New Member
    Something I just found out about, because Josey was taking about Magician.

    Samsung NVMe drivers didn't carry over.
    I opened my Magician(I have it set not to load at boot), and it showed that Windows is using the standard NVMe driver for both of my M.2's*Banghead:

    Samsung Magician [​IMG]


    Device manager shows the same:

    Samsung Magician [​IMG]

    Good thing I keep updated copies of my 3rd party drivers and programs*Tongue

    Samsung Magician [​IMG]
     
    Cliff S, Apr 7, 2018
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  15. @Cliff S

    How big of a difference does the Samsung NVMe drivers have on performance or other factors?
     
    slicendice, Apr 7, 2018
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