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Discus and support Samsung Magician in Windows 10 Software and Apps to solve the problem; @Cliff S Hahahah! I will add that to my recipe book. Discussion in 'Windows 10 Software and Apps' started by Clintlgm, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Samsung Magician


    @Cliff S

    Hahahah! I will add that to my recipe book.
     
    slicendice, Apr 9, 2018
    #91

  2. *chuckle*Devil*chuckle
     
    smactilactus, Apr 9, 2018
    #92
  3. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    M2 drives can be either SATA or NVMe. If SATA then I don't see why SM wouldn't work with that as that is what their documentation on SM says it does.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Apr 9, 2018
    #93
  4. Samsung Magician

    Exactly, M.2 is just the type of connector. SATA or NVMe is the transfer protocol, which are similar but has astronomical differences in IO speeds, thus making the faster NVMe useless to cache in RAM while the slower SATA benefits from this a lot.
     
    slicendice, Apr 9, 2018
    #94
  5. That was exactly what I was saying. I've not seen an example of a SATA m.2 drive working with rapid mode. Have you? I'm not saying it won't. But Samsung tech's did tell me it didn't. However, we all know they often have uneducated guys on their phones from time to time. So I am truly interested in someone giving me a concrete example contradicting what they've said.
     
    smactilactus, Apr 10, 2018
    #95
  6. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Regardless of whether or not I do have some drives like that, I've listed those that ought to work with SM.
    I can garantee you they do work in Rapid mode.
    And that's in SM's documentation as I stated right from the start.

    SM does not support NVMe but all commercially available Samsung SATA drives should support Rapid Mode, whether these are mounted on a M2 support, a 2.5'' casing or msata is totally irrelevant.





    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Apr 10, 2018
    #96
  7. Clintlgm Win User
    yes and Samsung had a bad firmware release not long ago, so I'm not using that part either.
     
    Clintlgm, Apr 10, 2018
    #97
  8. Clintlgm Win User

    Samsung Magician

    SM does support NVME, NVME does not support Rapid Mode, my 960 pro does everything my 850 pro does in SM except Rapid Mode, Rapid Mode is useless for anything except benchmarks it basically creates a RAM Drive which runs out real quick transferring large files.
     
    Clintlgm, Apr 10, 2018
    #98
  9. Not to be contrary, but for arguments sake, you can't guarantee anything you don't have or haven't used. There have been tons of write ups from companies saying their products will do this and that, and they didn't do either. I'm not saying they won't, and again, I didn't say I believed what they said. I only said that this was what they told me. All I know is my Samsung m.2 sata drive is blazingly fast, even without rapid mode. And my 2.5" Samsung 840 is much faster with rapid mode. And we all know the 960 is a beast! So it all works out in my system.
     
    smactilactus, Apr 10, 2018
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  10. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Correct, sorry for not being more precise.

    Actually I do have a few of these drives. I didn't want to mention it because I wanted people to understand why the supporting media format is of no importance.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Apr 10, 2018
  11. So you are saying that you have these drives in place, and they're using rapid mode? If so, that was what I asked like five pages ago. Lol! But glad to have it confirmed. I rarely listen to these guys on support lines anyway, as they are normally just warm bodies these days... But on the other hand, until confirmed, I don't necessarily buy in either.
     
    smactilactus, Apr 11, 2018
  12. fdegrove Win User
    Hi,

    Two 850 EVO's are currently used in 2.5" Asmedia RAID enclosure but yes, I tested them for Rapid Mode a while ago.

    Cheers, *Wink
     
    fdegrove, Apr 11, 2018
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