Windows 10: Should SSD's be defragmented

TRIM is an entirely different process than defragmenting. TRIM is how SSDs are optimized, defrag is how HDDs are optimized.

 

Ok, not to drag this out, so all would agree then to keep TRIM on and do not touch the SSD with any defragging program, such as Diskeeper etc.
By the way, has Diskeeper gone out of business, for I have not received any updates on this since 2012 I believe.

 

A lot of information on the Net is now outdated , look at the article's published date to see when it was written a lot of that info is essentially wrong today especially on Win10.

Trim is essential on a SSD ( why early on Company's provided utilities to do it ) to clean up the Drive internally after deletes etc are done , the internal command does not effect the SSD like a traditional Defrag as it writes nothing to the SSD , just changes the "pointers" so the SSD thinks it memory cells are empty etc.

The old habit of not letting a SSD hibernate was cos the 1st SSD's were only 60GB or perhaps 120GB and the Hibernate file is usually 1.6x the size of you physical Ram so if you had 8GB Ram you lost 12GB of your new 60GB SSD which made it a squeeze if you want all your Programs on the SSD too , not just the OS.

Windows 10 recognizes SSD's now and will not allow a Defrag , it does offer to Optimise them which is really the Trim Command being applied. it does it Auto and you don't really need to adjust it.

 

@Maggidon read this for understand TRIM and garbage collection: Garbage Collection and TRIM in SSDs Explained - An SSD Primer | The SSD Review

 

Good. Thanks for the helpful replies guys. This has been very helpful. If there are others who want to wade in with more comments, please do.
I'll not have Diskeeper kick in on the SSD but let Windows TRIM do its thing.

 

I use Intel SSD's and Intels Tool Box for their SSD's.
The best of my memory indicates that using the Optimizer section in the Intel Tool Box about once a week is just dandy and is what Intel recommends. Doing so for years has never hurt my Intel SSD's.

 

Thank you for the Interesting reply Layback Bear. I have a Samsgung 850 EV0 250GB sitting here on my desk not installed yet. But I can tell it's just raring to go. Being ignorant to this cute little tyke, I'm not sure any software comes with it so will allow TRIM to do its thing. Onions, pardon me, I mean opinions abound around but I've appreciated the advice you & the others have given. I think I'm going to just layback & give heed.

 

You may be over-thinking this a bit?*Redface

That sounds like the consensus for your new SSD:

defrag = NO
TRIM = yes.

(And even if it were a HDD (aka "spinner"), I would not use an outdated 3rd-party application from 2012 for defragmenting. Ever since Vista, or at least 7, the built-in Windows defragmenter is probably more than adequate for defragmenting a spinner. There are 3rd-party products out there, but it doesn't seem wise to use an old, outdated application for such an important task on a modern OS or modern hardware. JMHO)

Cheers,
MM

 

Samsung has their own app called SAMSUNG MAGICIAN For giving you information and spec's for your SSD. Plus monitors its updates. Here is the link . Under Magician Software ver# 4.9.7 17.8MB
http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor...oad/tools.html
Take care, Mike. *Smile

 

As to Diskeeper, I'm being told it's the latest version. Do you know if it has gone out of business?
As to the software in the Samsung SSD (and having not read the link yet) does the Samsung Magician replace TRIM?

 

It's hard to say what brand SSD you have on your laptop so I don't think that Magician will be of any use. As for Diskeeper.. I wouldn't use it since I don't think you really don't need it. All you really need to do to maintain an SSD is run the Trim command that's been pointed out to you and you will be all set.

Jeff

 

A quick Google search turns up:

But it doesn't matter, as everyone concurs that one should NOT use such a program to optimize or defragment a SSD.*Smile

Cheers, MM

 

Somewhere, way back in this thread, I think the OP did mention that it is a Samsung SSD (it's a new, replacement drive, I think).*Smile

Exactly.*Wink

MM

 

I set up windows defrag to trim my SSD monthly, is that good for my SSD?

 

If you read his post #20 Jeff you would have seen him post this. "I have a Samsgung 850 EV0 250GB sitting here on my desk "
Or I would NOT have posted the link to Samsung Magician for him.