Windows 10: Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days

Discus and support Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; Storage. It's not a sexy topic. But everyone uses it in some way or another. You have iPhones, you have computers. Everyone knows how important a... Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by labeeman, May 9, 2015.

  1. labeeman Win User

    Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days


    Source

    :)
     
    labeeman, May 9, 2015
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  2. Backup of laptop running very slowly.

    Installed Windows 10 update 1709 a few days ago. Having difficulty backing up system and data to a portable hard drive through usb 3.0 port. Have tried both ports and two portable hard drives. Same results. My system hard drive is not solid state. Backups
    run so slowly, it would take a couple days to perform a full backup.
     
    DanAustin1, May 9, 2015
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  3. Hard drives -Windows 10 is identifying my hard drives as solid state and cannot be defragmented

    Is the drive actually a solid state drive? If it is, Windows won't let you defrag the drive since you should never defrag a solid state drive. There are a finite number of read/writes a solid state drive is designed for and defragging the drive accelerates
    the wear and tear on the drive. Since the I/O on the solid state drive is exponentially faster and there isn't any advantage to moving the data together as you would find in a spindle drive, there's no change in performance.
     
    KeithCarter74, May 9, 2015
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  4. LEE
    Lee Win User

    Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days

    The more B. S. Department . . .*really
     
  5. Bill Smith Department?

    The article has a few flaws (lousy temp conversion That means if a solid-state drive is stored in a warm room, say 25°F (25°C), its data can last for about two years. *Wink ... 25C = 77F), but it references hard data from a very reliable source:
    http://www.jedec.org/sites/default/f...0Mode%5D_0.pdf

    Any charged device will lose it's charge over time, cooler temps = less discharge.

    All it means is that you need to periodically attach the device or better yet, back it up to physical media (HDD, DVD) if you plan on storing the device for prolonged periods.
     
    Slartybart, May 9, 2015
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  6. Dude Win User
    *Roflmao2

    I'm sure that's is exactly what Lee meant *Biggrin


    Well said Bill
     
    Dude, May 9, 2015
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  7. LEE
    Lee Win User
    Darn didn't know I was that easy of a read. . .*Roflmao2*Roflmao2
     
  8. Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days

    When SSD's first came out, I took all the hype with a grain of salt.
    I've been working with the mechanical HD's since they were still in their infancy. (back into the '60's).
    I doubt that very many on this or any forum today, would even know what an MFM or RLL drive was.

    The magnetic signal stored on any media, whether it be a floppy disk or HD, will diminish with time.
    Less time with a Floppy Disk and more time with less degradation with an HD.
    Time and cosmic rays are the killer. So how much degradation of the little magnetic ones and zeros stored on a HD can we tolerate before some data loss is reported? That depends on the structure of the HD in question. Some brands of HD's are better than others.
    To combat this loss of magnetic recording strength, with time and use, I re-write my mechanical HD at least once a month or sooner.
    Besides refreshing the data in storage, it also has the effect of defragmenting the drive.

    In spite of all the hype about the blazing speed of the SSD, I waited till 2015 to buy a small one, just to experiment with.
    File access speed is, of course, faster than on a mechanical HD, but......
    That date then has to flow through a standard SATA data cable, to a port on the motherboard, and into a HD controller chip, and finally to the data buss on the motherboard.
    No matter how fast the data was found by the SSD, it can't get into the CPU or RAM any faster than the SATA controller can process it. SATA I, SATA II or SATA III data transfer speeds are fixed by hardware and cannot be increased.

    My little SSD really didn't seem to be any faster than my old SATA III hard drive, because both were running on a SATA II motherboard. For an SSD to really shine, it would have to be connected to a drive controller that is much faster than even a SATA III.

    A possibility for the future, would be an SSD that would plug directly into a motherboard, like RAM memory.
    "Daddy, are we there yet?" ...... "No darlin' not yet!"

    Cheers Mates and Happy Mother's Day!

    *Cool
     
    TechnoMage, May 9, 2015
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  9. labeeman Win User
    They are here. pci-express-ssd
     
    labeeman, May 9, 2015
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  10. Gary Win User
    I guess if you live in Phoenix you are SOL.
     
  11. Cliff S New Member
    Basically "Silent Corruption" or "Bit Rot". I posted this in same thread in 8 Forums http://www.ironmountain.com/Knowledg...orruption.aspx
     
    Cliff S, May 9, 2015
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  12. bobfrost Win User
    Hey, where have you been for the last year or so? My Samsung XP941 plugs straight into a special small slot on the motherboard. No Sata, straight into the cpu via PCIE.

    Bob frost
     
    bobfrost, May 9, 2015
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  13. Solid-state drives lose data if left without power for just a few days

     
    musiclover7, May 9, 2015
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  14. WHS
    whs Win User
    I have never lost data from SSDs some of which I use since 2008. And some are not being used for at least 6 months when I am on the other side of the Atlantic.
     
  15. Mystere Win User
    Oh, please. There are more old farts here than anywhere else I've been. I'm in my mid-40's and I still remember my 5MB (yes, Megabyte) MFM ST-506.

    In those days, if you let a drive sit too long, the lubricant would seize the head to platter or the bearings would seize, this was called "stiction" and you often had to hit the drive with a hammer to free it up.
     
    Mystere, May 10, 2015
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