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  1. Solved - Win 10 Anniversary Update 1607 - The Worst Ever?


    I was going to type in something smartassy about how it was the worst ever, but it's Friday and I'm in a good mood! Clean installs work wonders because they eliminate so many variables of what COULD go wrong. They always give your computer the best chance at running well. Glad to hear it turned out that way for you....honestly!
     
    DeaconFrost, Sep 22, 2016
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  2. shobhitk Win User

    Thanks buddy!
     
    shobhitk, Sep 22, 2016
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  3. ruggb Win User
    for anyone who believes MS will eventually get W10 right, I have the ocean front property in AZ for you.
    They are developing an income stream OS. They want your money for every option you would like - like games.
    They will eventually drive me to Linux, I am sure. Every update is another aggravation.
     
    ruggb, Sep 22, 2016
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  4. Solved - Win 10 Anniversary Update 1607 - The Worst Ever?

    Here are few things that are a must do with the anniversary update for windows 10 to persist running smoothly as used to :

    1- Try clearing update cache location prior to update , use the following batch :
    Code: @net stop wuauserv @net stop bits @del "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution" /S /Q @FOR /R "C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution" %%D IN (.) DO ( if NOT "%%D"=="C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\." ( rmdir /S /Q "%%D" ) ) @net start wuauserv @net start bits @Pause[/quote] if command returns any unsuccessful events then restart and try again, if fails persist do note that the update will fail any way as you have a corrupted updates cache which happens more often than you expect.

    2-Re install all your drivers after update , even if checking them out return latest , the update does exactly what a fresh installation do and reinstall mircosoft copy of drivers which is 99% of the time more worse than any copy you have.

    3-Do a Disk Cleanup and remove the gigs stored for you to uninstall the anniversary update , anniversary update is here to stay , you can't fight it for long , it makes things worse.

    4-When every thing is stable but slightly slow do a disable / re-enable to system restore function to clear older blahs , mind you the option becomes out of sync of actual status after update and disable / enable reworks it (a hint : disabling it despite being risky makes everything go faster than you expect)

    5-Do an optimize and defragment drive , the drive after update is usually all clustered which renders it slow as a snail , a defrag despite taking heap of time restores it to expected behavior.

    Cheers
     
    nIGHTmAYOR, Sep 22, 2016
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  5. shobhitk, excellent, thanks for letting us know
     
    MeAndMyComputer, Sep 22, 2016
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  6. Windows 10 won't eventually be right because it already is right. If you believe otherwise, it's time to look in the mirror. If you buy a new BMW and drive it in to a pole...you can't really sit by blaming BMW.

    Upgrades have always had potential issues. However, it boils down to "did you do it right" or "didn't you do it right". Most of us know to do a clean install after any major upgrade. No reason not to, to be honest.
     
    DeaconFrost, Sep 22, 2016
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  7. Winuser Win User
    Glad to hear you got the AU installed and running good. *Smile
     
    Winuser, Sep 22, 2016
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    I think that's utter nonsense. Looking in a mirror lets you see a reasonably technically savvy person - relatively rare among Windows users.

    Yes, upgrades have always had potential problems, but come on! Most Windows users wouldn't have a clue that something called "clean install" even exists, let alone how to do it. Yes, the people on this forum (and a few other fora) know they should do a clean install. Most Windows users (who don't have an IT department to turn to) have done upgrades by buying a new computer. This upgrade-in-place is a new experience for most of them.

    Microsoft has not figured out how to do upgrade-in-place cleanly, and there probably is no way to do it cleanly for a huge number computers out there. The problem is not that Microsoft can't make it a clean upgrade; the problem is that Microsoft forces people to go through it whether it is a clean process or not.
     
    pokeefe0001, Sep 22, 2016
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  9. ruggb Win User
    ruggb, Sep 23, 2016
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  10. xraiderv1 Win User
    the sad fact is there are so many peripherals, devices, addons, enhancements and whatnot, with more released all the time. microsoft just cannot reasonably be expected to keep up. they cant test compatibility for everything to 100% reliability, not even on their own tech. bugs, anomolous performing systems, something's going to inevitably slip through. in the end, all users are essentially beta testers. just my 10 cents. take it for what its worth, form your own opinions.
     
    xraiderv1, Sep 23, 2016
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  11. shobhitk Win User
    Talking about windows updates, especially the major ones, i recollect that in older days we used to get really major updates such as SP1, SP2 etc. These were huge, both in terms of size and the level of alteration they did to the Windows core. But never ever did i experience a single hitch in doing a normal update. Not even i single time i had to clean install SP1 or SP2. It used to take aroun 40-50 minutes or so for the update to get installed but it was as smooth as flowing water in a lake!

    I would also disagree with you on the second point which you have raised ie. the 'Did you do it right' thing.

    Windows by its nature has been designed to be extremely user friendly. It has been designed, keeping in mind NOT the coding gurus or IT pros. but those simple people who would just want to use it for their everyday surfing such as checking mail, watching some video or maybe reading the latest news on the internet.
    Nothing more is to be done (read: should not be required to be done), by the user than just clicking the 'Update' button. This is not a space station launch procedure!

    I therefore fail to understand the 'Did you do it right' philosophy. On the contrary this question needs to be asked to MS, 'Did you do it right?'
     
    shobhitk, Sep 23, 2016
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  12. There are 3 really good but completely separate points in that paragraph:
    • Hard forced shutdowns are not good for Windows
    • Sometimes you have no choice
    • Sooner or latter you'll have to address the issues causing it.

    As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I had little problem with 2 AU upgrade-in-place installations, but when after upgrading my wife's laptop, switching between users (both local admin accounts) would hang up - black screen. Twice it eventually woke up enough after 10-15 minutes to present the lock screen, and one of those times it eventually got to the login screen (but would not accept the password). The only way out was usually 2 forced shutdowns - one to get out of the black screen following the request to switch, and another because we could not get beyond the lock screen after the 1st reboot.

    Yesterday I did a clean reinstall and now there are no apparent problems.

    Prior to Windows 10 I had never done a Windows install - clean or otherwise - and never considered it a necessary part of my knowledge base. Since my first upgrade-in-place to Win 10 a little over a year ago I've had to do 5 of them (on 3 computers). Installation of Windows is tedious, and configuring the settings afterwards is irritating. But the reinstallation of the 25 or so software packages on 2 of the PCs is a real pain!

    I don't expect and upgrade-in-place process to be error free. In fact, I don't know how it can be expected to work at all! But to foist this error-prone process on a non-technical user community and expect them cope by doing clean reinstalls is absurd.
     
    pokeefe0001, Sep 24, 2016
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  13. andrewsc Win User

    Solved - Win 10 Anniversary Update 1607 - The Worst Ever?

    My wife's laptop went overnight to 1607. She lost all gadgets (weather, calendar) which I somehow managed to install on Windows 10. The upgrade process simply removed them.
    We don't care about the Gadget technology in particular. We are willing to give up parts of the screen, to permanently display weather, clock, calendar, even currency rate. If the old Gadget technology is not secure enough, we could settle for something else. Tiles look ugly.
     
    andrewsc, Sep 25, 2016
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  14. Mystere Win User
    Mystere, Sep 25, 2016
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  15. comcom Win User
    What do you mean by clean install? Reinstall Win 10 and all programs again?

    If you reinstall Windows 10, it will still auto update Win 10 anniversary Update 1607 correct? That new 1607 update did not cause any problems?
     
    comcom, Sep 26, 2016
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