Windows 10: SSD Media Wear out Indicator Smart Data Question

Hi All

Still getting used to having an SSD Drive, supposedly it trimmed autoly on March 9th, so that's good, now looked into Smart data in Western Digitals SSD Dashboard, and got a concern, that possibly somethings writing a lot


I might be concerned over nothing, but rather be safe than sorry

If too much is being written still to it, i'll see if I can get more files off it, or move the pagefile to my secondary drive

:)

 

compression software

Can you elaborate on this point? Why is writing less data to an SSD and reading less data from it (the compression/decompression is naturally done in RAM) not a good idea?

 

Wanted: Tips for dual booting Windows 10 and Windows 7 on an SSD.

Colin,

I dual-booted Windows 7 & Windows 10 IP on an SSD for a couple of months during the Preview period. I had no issues.

My setup was similar to yours - partitions on the SSD for each OS, Data {and user account folder relocations} on an HDD in the media bay. I made no particular provision for page files [i.e. I just accepted the high SSD usage that they entailed].

[I changed my setup later on. My Windows 10 IP is now installed on a partition on the media bay HDD instead. Since I will eventually upgrade my Windows 7 to Windows 10, there did not seem any point in wearing out the SSD with an additional OS that
was, by then, only being used to test application compatibility & Windows 10 versions of my own batch files.]

 

Leave the pagefile alone. No need to move it. Writes are really not a concern on modern ssd's like they may have been on first gen ssd drives many years ago.

 

Oh ok, this is my very first SSD, so little bit extra cautious than I normally am lol

 

Just use it. I have an Intel SSD nearly 8 years old going fine.

 

Hi there

Modern SSD's are probably more robust and long lasting than Spinners

It's amazing isn't it how things that might have been of concern YEARS ago are still of concern today -- just look at the average MTBF of SSD's compared to spinners.

Another thing that people seem to waste time doing is often spending HOURS on defragging a spinner -- I've never found this even YEARS ago when a 20GB spinner was considered HUGE (note 1 did say 20 not 200GB or 2TB) it didn't make any significant difference -- and in any case even if you still believe in performing this utterly futile and pointless exercise you would achieve a far better result by simply "imaging" the HDD and restoring with something like FREE MACRIUM and select the "smart copy" option. Not only is this operation FAR quicker you've also made a backup which you should do regularly anyway.

Never defrag an SSD though that is even more futile and pointless than HDD defragging.

Cheers
jimbo

 

In fact. given OS is only written once mostly, that portion of the drive does not really need defragging. You can pretty much defrag quickly by simply copying all data files using file explorer to another drive, deleting it on initial drive and then just copying it back.

Anyway hardly needed with modern OS/large drives as you say.

 

Hi there

My most used OS in fact boots from a Micro SD card in the server (just the boot loader) which then loads the OS from an SSD. Takes a few seconds longer as the boot loader is read from the micro sd card but works fine -- I have to do this rather than boot directly from SSD as this server only boots from the SSD port if the whole thing is in "RAID" mode -- and since the RAID is 100% terrible (It's a fake "pseudo" RAID system) I simply disable it in BIOS and use SATA / AHCI mode and enable RAID via software instead for a HUGE performance gain (4 X 4 TB HDD's in 2 Arrays).


I'm running CENTOS on this server with the swap on the SSD, and also 1 X W10 VM and 1 XP VM from the SSD - no prob at all with writes etc - everything on the SSD.

The HDD's serve multi-media / files / internet gateway / backups while for the VM's and main OS I still use things like photoshop / video editing scratch files etc on the SSD -- no probs at all and I have a cloned copy of the SSD which takes seconds to replace the original if I need to. !! A 256GB SSD these days is really so affordable it makes sense to get a spare !!! if using for an OS and just replace it if the original goes defective. Haven't had an SSD ever fail on me either on this machine or in laptops.

Server is an HP Gen 8 ProLiant cube type Microserver with the standard Celeron processor replaced by a HYPERTHREADING XEON -- well worth the mod as these can be got reasonably cheaply now.

Just stop worrying about SSD wear and tear - just treat it as a spinner -- but you can also drop these, they can be roughly handled at airports etc and I've had one clatter down an Escalator at Kings Cross Metro station in London without any damage at all. !!!

Cheers
jimbo

 

Thank you all so much for the replies, I feel relieved now that seems I have nothing to worry about, my very first ssd drive, so little extra cautious still currently, but slowly adapting to it, though system speed much faster on start up and loading of the 1 game I did put on the SSD, rest are on storage drive.

And Next Month just get the Creators update properly onto the SSD, and all good, thinking will do inplace upgrade, and select keep files, and let it do the install that way, then delete WIndows old, and should be good I think

 

the benefit by relocating your pagefile to a secondary SSD is synchronous reads and writes in parallel with your main SSD especially if your available memory is low.

 

Yeah except I only got 1 SSD, and 1 Spinner drive, but will keep that in mind for the future

 

you might want to make the physical disk the place for temp, tmp and temporary internet files since the impact time for reads/writes should be negligible for those circumstances but will save you alot of writes to your SSD (unless your network/ internet is faster than your read/write times to the PHD)
reads/writes to your page file depends on your commit charge application and base usage profiles, if its high, moving it to a PHD from an SSD might make more sense.
using "Process Monitor" in file system activity mode can give you an outlook at read/write activity on the SSD.

 

Yeah worked on that, only one can't figure out to move is Microsoft Edge Cache, otherwise got 3rd browser moved, Tmp files, and temporary files, and will look at Process Monitor to get better idea on the write aspects, hopefully nice and low, being my first SSD, figuring out everything as I go here

 

short of scrubbing the registry for the location path key in order to modify it, i would say a symbolic link would be much easier.
im sure you probably know the folders being used in question for edge.