Windows 10: Start up/Shutdown quirks since updating to 20H2

Discus and support Start up/Shutdown quirks since updating to 20H2 in Windows 10 Support to solve the problem; I am pretty sure this all started happening after I updated to 20H2 Startup its not an actual problem relating directly to the startup process, thats... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by colif, Nov 2, 2020.

  1. colif Win User

    Start up/Shutdown quirks since updating to 20H2


    I am pretty sure this all started happening after I updated to 20H2

    Startup
    its not an actual problem relating directly to the startup process, thats fine. Its the startup tab on taskbar shows every process as not measured except for skype which is disabled. I know it works as I asked some friends about it. They showed me theirs. I don't expect the impact of startup to be too high on my PC, I don't notice it at all. But still nice if it worked, it was before the update.

    Shutdown
    For the last 2 weeks, at every shutdown Steam servers would pop up after the spinning circle at shutdown and stall the process. PC does turn off after a few seconds. So I figured, I will stop steam loading with windows at start-up so I won't have to think to close it at shutdown.

    That just stopped steam being the cause, now I get a program called "Program manager". I looked it up on Google and it appears to relate to Logitech devices, I have a G910 keyboard.
    If I close G Hub at shutdown the error doesn't happen.

    So I thought, I remove G Hub as I only need it to change colors on keyboard.
    restart PC, Program manager stops shutdown... um?
    restart PC again figuring it might have been in ram still or something... still happens.

    I reinstalled G Hub as I thought perhaps previous update was buggy, it had installed itself the same day as 20H2.

    Now if I close G Hub & restart, I get the error
    If I close G Hub and shut PC down, I don't get the error?
    I didn't test whether after uninstalling it, I still get the error on a shutdown but if it still happens at restart, its not really gone/fixed.

    Now I have looked in shutdown log, it really doesn't tell me much.
    I looked in task scheduler as since it runs at restart I thought it might be there.
    I looked in event viewer but I didn't see anything related.
    nothing shows in system information/Software components/windows Error Reporting (I answer BSOD posts as a hobby on Tom's so figuring out problems is what I do)
    I have run sfc /scannow and dism/restore health.
    I ran Power trouble-shooter, it just changed my sleep/monitor settings. and reduced CPU minimum. Win 10 has no idea how fast a 3600XT is really.

    Now I could be way off but I feel they related somehow, I know Fast start-up links Start-up & Shutdown together. I don't have it running as I have an NVME but it still makes me wonder. The start-up problem can easily be ignored but having to shut off background programs just to get a faster shutdown seems odd.

    I know there are ways to force PC to shut right now but I don't feel I need to do that. It should just work.

    I don't know what cause is, I am not sure if its not 20H2 as it all started after the update. Do I run around trying to fix something that Microsoft will just fix with a patch?

    shutdown seems slower even when i have closed the program before hand.

    20H2 installed strangely, it doesn't show in my Windows update history page but I do know I have it installed if I look in winver

    :)
     
    colif, Nov 2, 2020
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  2. DaveM121 Win User

    Update History is not showing v.20H2

    Hi Dominic

    I am Dave, an Independent Advisor, I will help you with this . . .

    This is normal behavior in Windows 10, typically when you install a Feature Update like 20h2, the update history is wiped, this is to prevent the user from trying to uninstall an update that was prior to the Feature Update, which would de-stabilize Windows
    10, the list should start building again, when some updates are applied to version 20h2 . . .
     
    DaveM121, Nov 2, 2020
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  3. Drew1903 Win User
    Have New 20H2 Start (NOW)

    The 20H2 Start Menu can be 'released' from within 20H1.

    You will, still, do 20H2 via WU in October, BUT can have the new 20H2 Start Menu, now by doing the following:

    1. Open up Notepad.
    2. Paste the following text:

      Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

      [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\FeatureManagement\Overrides\0\2093230218]

      "EnabledState"=dword:00000002

      "EnabledStateOptions"=dword:00000000

    3. Save the file as 'Start Menu.reg'.
    4. Run the file.
    5. Reboot


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    now and, still, OS Build 19041.508

    Cheers,

    Drew


    Start up/Shutdown quirks since updating to 20H2 101ca3b6-ebd9-4c80-b925-776d208b62eb?upload=true.jpg

     
    Drew1903, Nov 2, 2020
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  4. DonT5 Win User

    Start up/Shutdown quirks since updating to 20H2

    Windows 10 20H2 update breaks windows update.

    Hello this is Don a user like you. I had the same problem you are experiencing and I noticed in View Update History in settings the 20H2 was not there even after I thought it had installed after restarting my computer. I knew that the update was going to
    make Edge a permanent part of the O.S. so I went and checked Edge. I clicked on Edge settings then scrolled down to Help and Feedback and opened it up then clicked on About Microsoft Edge and when I did that Edge started installing updates. My Edge is now
    Version 86.0.622.56 . I then restarted Edge and then my computer. I then went to settings update and security and check updates searching had stopped and the 20H2 update was now in View Update History. I think there is some kind of bug with the update and
    it will not fully update until Edge is up to date. There must be something in the Edge update 86.0.622.56 that the 20H2 update was looking for to run to completion. This is just a stab in the dark but it might be worth trying. Good luck.

    Cheers,

    Don
     
    DonT5, Nov 2, 2020
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