Windows 10: The first of a few questions regarding installing W10.

Discus and support The first of a few questions regarding installing W10. in Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade to solve the problem; Grub is in bad shape. Advanced setting gives the Kernels list even if you have one. I guess that System Setup is what you're looking at. Reinstalling... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Installation and Upgrade' started by dlw1146, Jun 14, 2017.

  1. The first of a few questions regarding installing W10.


    Grub is in bad shape. Advanced setting gives the Kernels list even if you have one. I guess that System Setup is what you're looking at. Reinstalling Grub is an option, boot repair is another.

    Insert the Win Ten flash drive in Ubuntu, restart and press F9 should bring you to the boot sequence (HP), you should see the Windows Installer, but not the BIOS.

    Your SSD seems to boot too fast? I would try the F9 option and scratch Ubuntu to see if you can reach the BIOS. Ubuntu takes 5-7 minutes to install, dual boot after.
     
    MikeMecanic, Jun 16, 2017
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  2. dlw1146 Win User

    Only have an hour or so this am to work on this. Be back the afternoon.
     
    dlw1146, Jun 16, 2017
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  3. Rocky Win User
    It seems to me that you are trying to get into your BIOS as a two step process, when in reality this is really a one step phenomenon. Before you even hit the power switch of your PC, you already need to be pushing the F10 key, and keep repeatedly hitting that F10 key while you turn your computer on.

    This is not a two step process, you really need to treat this as a one step event.
     
    Rocky, Jun 16, 2017
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  4. The first of a few questions regarding installing W10.

    Boot repair:
    Code: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install boot-repair[/quote] The app (Boot Repair) will be in dash, open it. In main option, check 1. Reinstall Grub and 2. Unhide boot menu for 10 seconds. Follow the process. I don't think that Synaptic will be helpful. There is no such thing in Windows 10 (1607 is safer) if you install it first.

    Like Rocky is saying, there is only one way to reach the BIOS. Even if you repair Grub, in System Setup (Grub Menu) you would still have to click on F10 to reach it. Did you try F9 with the Windows CD in? About F9 with the CD or flash drive of Ubuntu, does it work?

    EDIT: By experience, I can tell that Ubuntu alongside Windows Boot Manager, runs better in BIOS Mode. It is easier to redo a fresh install of Ubuntu and more specifically, to remove Grub (bootrec.exe /fixmbr).
     
    MikeMecanic, Jun 16, 2017
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  5. dlw1146 Win User
    It seems to me that you are trying to get into your BIOS as a two step process, when in reality this is really a one step phenomenon. Before you even hit the power switch of your PC, you already need to be pushing the F10 key, and keep repeatedly hitting that F10 key while you turn your computer on.

    This is not a two step process, you really need to treat this as a one step event.

    Tried this three times. Did not work.

    Did you try F9 with the Windows CD in? About F9 with the CD or flash drive of Ubuntu, does it work?

    Tried F9 with W10 CD in; did work. What is 'About F9'?
     
    dlw1146, Jun 16, 2017
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  6. We know that you are not able to reach the BIOS and we are there to help. Did work? Didn't work you mean? About F9 with the Ubuntu DVD is to get rid of Ubuntu in GParted.

    If F10, F1 and F9 are not working on a HP computer, all I can say is, Houston, we have a problem!
    Did you try boot repair, because if boot repair is not working, then get Ubuntu out of there. The rest is time consuming.
     
    MikeMecanic, Jun 17, 2017
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  7. dlw1146 Win User
    Ok, however, how do I get Ubuntu out of there?
    Ubuntu is on the SSD. Gparted can do nothing with it. I've tried changing flags.
    Booting up via CD is not possible.
     
    dlw1146, Jun 17, 2017
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  8. Fafhrd Win User

    The first of a few questions regarding installing W10.

    Try Esc for options then F10 on some HP BIOSes.

    It's sometimes difficult to judge when the HP cold boots from hitting the power on button.

    Hit it then Ctrl+Alt+Del immediately - the warm reboot has a small delay in which the keyboard is receptive to keypresses.

    Try power on, then Ctrl+Alt+Del then Esc or F10
     
    Fafhrd, Jun 17, 2017
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  9. dlw1146 Win User
    By changing flags, the HP logo remained on longer.
    Pressing F9 or F10 did no good.
     
    dlw1146, Jun 17, 2017
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  10. essenbe Win User
    From a cold boot, press Escape repeatedly. It should pause booting. Then try the F10. I'm working on an HP now and that is how I have to get into bios.
     
    essenbe, Jun 17, 2017
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  11. If an install does not get you to a working desktop, then the install has failed or the installer did not succeed in transferring data to the HDD. The only place that leftshift key is not working (entire disk), is in the LVM partitioning scheme and that is not all the time (second Grub modification comes from there).
     
    MikeMecanic, Jun 17, 2017
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  12. Can you reach Try Ubuntu? If not, download Gparted.

    In try Ubuntu: Dash/GParted/Select hdd in top right/Delete all related partions/If any, turn off swap before deleting/Apply changes/New/Forget errors that you encounter/Format in Fat32/Apply changes. If you succeed, entire surface will turn green.

    Even if Grub will still be there (GPT), you should have access to the BIOS upon restart.

    Before leaving the installation, in the terminal (if not working, try it in Synaptic):

    Code: sudo apt purge grub-pc[/quote] or
    Code: sudo apt-get purge grub-pc[/quote] Then,
    Code: sudo reboot[/quote] Good luck!
     
    MikeMecanic, Jun 17, 2017
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  13. dlw1146 Win User

    The first of a few questions regarding installing W10.

    My apologies for the delay. However... SUCCESS!!!
    If at first you don't succeed, suck a lemon until you do succeed.
    I opened my box and reset the bios on the motherboard.

    Anyway, been busy setting up W10
    I'm on my W7 laptop because W10 doesn't believe my password for Tenforums.com.

    To all that helped; a hearty thank you.

    On to the next question, see security section.
     
    dlw1146, Jun 17, 2017
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  14. Rocky Win User
    I'm glad you got past this step. Congratulations.
     
    Rocky, Apr 4, 2018
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