Windows 10: Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account

Discus and support Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account in User Accounts and Family Safety to solve the problem; Somehow or another I received a computer to work on in which the build is Administrator account has been tied to a MSA. It is Windows 10 Home so I... Discussion in 'User Accounts and Family Safety' started by Converseallstar95, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account


    Somehow or another I received a computer to work on in which the build is Administrator account has been tied to a MSA. It is Windows 10 Home so I can't get to more advanced options in lusrmgr. I've tried searching and haven't found anything related to this topic; I have no Idea how the MSA was tied to the Admin account and there is no sign out/switch to local option. I tried to reset the Admin account as described here, but it did not remove the MSA.

    Any ideas?
    Thanks in advance.

    :)
     
    Converseallstar95, Dec 6, 2017
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  2. Undo/Un-sync Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account

    Sorry to hear removing Creds did not work.

    I don't know if you tried System restore the old way through control panel.

    But this is what I found is in config restore with Win10 it's turned off. Why don't know. There are some restore points saved somewhere in the system. So you could try.

    Another way is to use a large Thumb or Jump drive save your children files etc.. and remove all there info remove there accounts and repair your admin account.

    Or fine someone that know computer language that can go into admin CMD prompt and remove that password that now embedded into windows. I myself have not got that far yet. If I find away I'll message you back. Good Luck
     
    DavidShort_59, Dec 6, 2017
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  3. Undo/Un-sync Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account

    Try looking here.

    In Search Box type Control Panel Click

    Open Credential Manager Open

    Right Tab Windows Creds Open

    Look at the date to right of modified

    You may need to sign out of Windows Store MS

    then if you known your passwords and your child children know there's Passwords

    your can remove them

    Restart then sign into your account windows and store mail cloud etc.....

    and save

    and have your children do the same.
     
    DavidShort_59, Dec 6, 2017
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  4. Brink
    Brink New Member

    Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account

    Brink, Dec 9, 2017
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  5. cereberus Win User
    OPs post does not make sense. The built in and normally hidden Administrator account cannot login with an MSA account and does not run uwp apps.

    I think OP is confusing the Administrator account with the default Admin account initially setup which can be a local or MS account - the installer tries very hard to get you to use MSA as we all know.
     
    cereberus, Dec 9, 2017
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  6. Bree New Member
    This is theoretically not possible. Unfortunately there is one unique set of circumstances in which it can happen. As far as I know Microsoft provide no way of undoing it (as they never intended it to be possible in the first place). @Kari knows the details...

    How to remove Microsoft Account from the Hidden Administrator (post #10)
     
    Bree, Dec 9, 2017
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  7. Bree New Member
    @Brink & @cereberus. Unfortunately for the OP, Kari has shown that not only is it possible, but it's irreversible too *Sad
     
    Bree, Dec 9, 2017
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  8. Brink
    Brink New Member

    Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account

    Brink, Dec 9, 2017
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  9. Kari Win User
    No, that will not fix it.

    I've been testing this now quite extensively because I found something that makes me worried; as of version 1709 it is now possible to use UWP apps also when signed in as built-in admin. This was not possible earlier. If tried, an error message like below was shown:


    Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account [​IMG]


    Now, with full access to UWP apps it means that, although it still is not possible to switch built-in admin account to a Microsoft account from Settings > Accounts, it is now possible to sign to UWP apps with MS account when signed to Windows as built-in admin and from there switch the system account to a Microsoft account when choosing wrong:


    Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account [​IMG]


    In my opinion this is a serious error, something that should not be possible and allowed.

    When the built-in admin account has been connected to a Microsoft account, the only way to revert it, switch back to a local account is a clean install. The link to switch to a local account is simply missing:


    Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account [​IMG]


    For repair install, there's nothing to repair; the account is OK and working.
     
    Kari, Dec 9, 2017
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  10. Hi Brink, thanks for the response; I have checked the Microsoft Store, yet the MSA is NOT signed into the store.

    Thank you for trying to help; I understand that while my account may look inexperienced (including the typo "build is" rather than "built in"), I am far from it. I did mean the built-in Administrator account is logged in with an MSA, as others have commented on below. Understandably, you didn't know, as it was new information to me as well!
    My apologies, I wouldn't have posted a new thread if I had found that thread. You may merge them if you'd like.

    Here are some screens from the laptop. It sounds like there is no way besides a clean install.

    Screenshot 1: No MSA signed into the Microsoft Store
    Screenshot 2: MSA signed into Administrator account with no option to switch to local
    Screenshot 3: No MSA linked to Email and Accounts
    Screenshot 4: netplwiz options - no option to reset password (since it is an MSA)
    Screenshot 5: netplwiz properties - shows it is the built in account

    Other notes:
    I can load all the UWP apps without error
    If I press forgot password from the login window I am taken to the Cortana reset MSA password experience
     
    Converseallstar95, Dec 10, 2017
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  11. Kari Win User
    Once the built-in admin account has been switched to a Microsoft account, there's no way to switch it back to a local account. Absolutely nothing you can do. Only way to undo it is a clean install.
     
  12. Ok; thanks for the help!
     
    Converseallstar95, Dec 10, 2017
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  13. cereberus Win User

    Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account

    I agree this is an issue. It seems like some developer decided to sort issue about running uwp apps in Administrator mode but only did half the job.

    I wonder what happens if you do a sysprep and oobe in audit mode ? One to test in a vm Undo Built-in Administrator Account tied to a Microsoft Account :).
     
    cereberus, Dec 10, 2017
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  14. Kari Win User
    In my tests, if you install without network connection, boot to Audit Mode signing in as is default with built-in admin credentials, and only then enable network, you can install new UWP apps from Store as you wish. They will not get provisioned to all users, they do not prevent generalizing with Sysprep.

    The key seems to be, according to few tests installs and Sysprep runs I've done, to install without any network / Interwebs access.
     
  15. lx07 Win User
    I don't understand this comment.

    Either the Administrator account is linked on the MS servers (in which you can't do anything and clean install would not help) or it is held on your PC (in which case you can change it).

    If clean install resets it then clearly one can - it is just a matter of knowing how.

    Personally I'd ignore it - MS will probably fix it with other such mistakes.
     
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