Windows 10: VM

Discus and support VM in Windows 10 Virtualization to solve the problem; LOL, didn't realize my VitrualBox hadn't been updated in while.... time to update it *Smile Discussion in 'Windows 10 Virtualization' started by cmmpro1, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. Eagle51 Win User

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    LOL, didn't realize my VitrualBox hadn't been updated in while.... time to update it *Smile
     
    Eagle51, Jan 21, 2018
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  2. cmmpro1 Win User

    its installing. I am a little afraid but I guess I have to jump all in. like the first time I jumped. (had to be pushed out)
     
    cmmpro1, Jan 21, 2018
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  3. cmmpro1 Win User
    Its on the computer. now I'm about to install Linux. Which one do I need to make virtual? I want the compter to run off Linux...
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    cmmpro1, Jan 21, 2018
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  4. Eagle51 Win User

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    Click on New and setup the VM first.
     
    Eagle51, Jan 21, 2018
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  5. cmmpro1 Win User
    My computer is 64 bit but all the options are for 32 bit. I am sure that's ok But.......... is it?
     
    cmmpro1, Jan 21, 2018
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  6. cmmpro1 Win User
    Also, I haven't installed Linux as of yet. Do I want to still make win10 virtual?
     
    cmmpro1, Jan 21, 2018
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  7. Eagle51 Win User
    Then you'll need the 32bit version of Linux Mint

    You not making Win10 Virtual, so to speak ... you're creating a Vitrual Machine (VM) in VirtualBox inside Win10 and yes you have to create a VM to run/install Linux Mint in VirtualBox *Smile
     
    Eagle51, Jan 21, 2018
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  8. Eagle51 Win User

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    What are PC specs that you're using to do this ?
     
    Eagle51, Jan 21, 2018
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  9. jimbo45 Win User
    Hi folks
    @cmmpro1

    I use VMware (I got the full VMware workstation from work - but the VMware player can be used for free). VBOX should work similarly so these instructions are applicable to VBOX users too.

    In creating your Virtual Machine -- give it say 1 GB of memory and 20 GB of Virtual disk space -- should be more than enough for a test system. If it all goes wrong then just delete, have a think, coffee, beer, scotch or whatever and then start again.

    You probably will want to also install SAMBA on your VM (for networking so you can share with Windows - and vice versa) and you should also ensure package ntfs-3g is installed to be able to read / write windows NTFS files.

    After your machine is up and running you should install VMware tools or vbox additions - depending on whether you use VMware or vbox.

    Sometimes also you might not be able to get 3-d support or hardware acceleration -- that's usually because the correct graphics driver isn't installed on the HOST (physical) machine. With Windows HOSTS that shouldn't normally be a problem.

    With VMWARE if you cant get VMware tools to install package open-vmtools or similar is an acceptable package that can be successfully used instead of VMware tools. You need these packages to properly configure audio and video in the Virtual machine.

    Two little things to check -- when creating a VM on VMWARE check in the config menu USB compatibility - it's usually set by default to USB2 so USB3 devices if they work at all will only work at USB2 speeds -- set to USB 3 which gives backward compatibility.

    Here's a screen shot of one of my Linux VM's config menu. This is a fairly heavy duty one - you don't need to give yours anything like 3GB of memory - 1 GB should be more than enough !!! Also you won't need to add physical discs !!! - set your main virtual disk to around 20 GB first time round. That will be enough for a test Linux VM.


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    On network if you can't get any connections set to BRIDGE rather than NAT - Bridge will give the VM its own separate IP address and usually works - but testing will soon tell you what works and what doesn't.

    Have fun

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Jan 21, 2018
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  10. Golden Win User
    Golden, Jan 21, 2018
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  11. RickC Win User
    If the host (what you're running VirtualBox on) is 64-bit then VirtualBox's New dialog should offer both 32-bit and 64-bit VMs):


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    If you're going to create a Linux Mint VM then be aware that there are several flavours:

    Linux Mint Cinnamon - This flavour needs the most resources (i.e. oomph!) but offers the richest visual environment.

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    Linux Mint Xfce - Needs the least resources.

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    Linux Mint MATE - This is in between the 2 above in terms of resources required. (I don't have it installed so can't provide a screenshot.)

    If the host doesn't have a lot of RAM then, whilst you're just having your first look at a Linux distro, then I would suggest downloading the Xfce ISO. If the host does have a lot of RAM, e.g. can allocate at least 2 GB (4GB is better) to the VM then I would suggest downloading the Cinnamon ISO. (Note that in VirtualBox you choose New > Ubuntu to install any flavour of Linux Mint, as that's what it's based on.) My very basic Cinnamon VM with SAMBA and very little else installed is currently 10GB so I would suggest allocating a fixed disk of 20GB if you can spare it. (Fixed disks are slightly faster... important if the host itself is HDD-based instead of SSD.)

    It might be helpful if you provide your system spec so any advice offered is appropriate. (Your profile shows 'Lenovo, Probook 6470b'... but ProBook 6470b is a dual-core business-class laptop... do you have a Lenovo desktop and an HP laptop?)

    Hope this helps...
     
    RickC, Jan 21, 2018
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  12. jimbo45 Win User
    Hi there.

    I wouldn't worry about resources of the Linux machine - the Virtualisation program handles all the graphics with either VBOX or VMware and these days virtualisation doesn't have to consume a lot of resources.

    1 GB should be AMPLE memory for the VM --remember a VM doesn't handle memory in the same way as a REAL machine - there's not a 1:1 relationship between allocation on HOST and allocation on VM. These days the better VM programs also dynamically allocate memory (up to the amount specified in the config when creating the VM) and release it when not needed -- also a VM that is idle just sits in the background taking almost ZERO resources.

    Linux MINT - the full works will run quite happily on a 1GB VM. 20 GB disk size is also fine.

    Run the VM though on an SSD - on a typical HDD you might have to wait a few minutes while the Linux VM is loading and initialising - plus building its swap space etc. With an SSD this stuff is almost done instantaneously.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Jan 21, 2018
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  13. Eagle51 Win User

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    Eagle51, Jan 21, 2018
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  14. Eagle51 Win User
    Just an FYI ... On my laptop (see specs) ... VirtualBox 5.2.6 ... Linux Mint KDE runs in normal video mode, but both Cinnamon and Mate will only run in Software Render Mode, regardless of what guest video driver I use and I've tried them all and all the tips and tricks *Sad
    virtualbox-guest-additions from VirtualBox CD
    virtualbox-guest-x11
    virtualbox-guest-dkms-hwe
    virtualbox-guest-dkms

    Edit: Duh ... Helps if you read the downloads page ...
    Important: The Guest Additions which come with VirtualBox 5.2.6 and 5.1.32 do not work properly on Linux guests with 3D enabled. Here are updated versions for 5.2.6 and 5.1.32.
     
    Eagle51, Jan 21, 2018
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  15. jimbo45 Win User
    Hi there

    Time to switch to VMware !!!!!!! seriously use what works -- also for most things 3D on guest not normally needed. To test if video rendering is working OK on guest - install KDE games (KPAT) and play spider solitaire !!!! same or very similar to the old W7 version --if cards move OK then your video is fine.

    Cheers
    jimbo
     
    jimbo45, Jan 22, 2018
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