Windows 10: Want to Upgrade a Pentium D 920 (Presler) to a Core Duo 2 Quad ?

True, the price of a used "in great condition" is only roughly 10 bucks, I can throw away that and a few hours just to see if it works. There is a 2010 BIOS Update, my guess in 2010, to perhaps get that board to support the C2Ds... The socket is the same, so it will fit, no doubt! As far as overclocking that 920 D, I doubt that would be wise since it is very high in temps as normal, I don't think just an air system can support overclocking - it will fry in a minute or two.

I'll be happy as you suggest, be patient too, keep an eye out for those EE 965, I'm just not going to apy 129 USd for one, not worth it on that machine. I'll keep you posted in any news on a new EE somewhere (used of course). *Thumbs
If you see one, keep me posted too... And if a C2D works, you know I'll shout that out loud! LOL Thanks!

 

"The socket is the same, so it will fit..."

Socket 775 was used for a fairly long time. If you mean fit physically, that is correct. Whether it's safe electrically, I'm not sure.

I wonder if you're the only person making a hobby of an old Packard Bell PC. (They left the US market in 1998, according to Wikipedia. Their hardware was not highly regarded before that.)

 

Its a Gateway PC made with Intel parts, model is 2006. I never owned a Packard Bell... *Smile
Gateway left the market just around then, mid 2000s, otherwise known as eMachines.
Not too shabby that it still works, and pretty well, all original parts except the graphics card.

 

My apologies. I may have conflated this with another thread. (No way it could have been a PB, unless it somehow found its way here from elsewhere in the world.)

 

Its cool, actually, I used to work eons ago as a second job in a chain store (retail) known in the Mass and New England area called Lechmere. They were the BestBuy of the 1990s, I was just a little runt! I remember they had a huge display of Packard Bells, amazing how long ago that is and how well I remember it as if it were last week. That name (brand) was a household name back in the 90s, now, they are forever gone! Wasn't HP associated with them? They morphed - sort of - into Hewlett Packard... And they still make junk!

 

A blast from the past. I lived in the Boston area until 1995, so I wasn't around when Lechmere died in 1997 (according to Wikipedia). I never worked for them, but I thought of Lechmere as more of an appliance store than a seller of tech. They may have carried PCs made by Hyundai, too. (I'd bet that most people have never seen one of those.)

There is no connection between Packard Bell and Hewlett Packard. It's just a coincidence of names. HP was founded by William Hewlett and David Packard. It originally made electronic test equipment. That part of the business may have gone mostly into their Agilent spin-off.

 

Interesting factoid, I never knew Hyundai made personal computers. What ever happened to their brand, other than being a car maker now? I did sort of know there was no link between the two Packards, I should have remembered that - slipped my mind. I never was a fan of HP products. If you go online to buy one now, they still are selling old technologies, DDR3, just wireless A/B/G/N, Bluetooth 4.0, 4th or 5th Gen Intels, etc... I see they have newer ones that are very expensive for what they are with DDR4, but almost all other new laptops now (Even the cheap bloated PCs at Best Buy and Walmart) all have DDR4 RAM, 6th Gen Intels. I went on Dell's online store, and pretty much all their PCs now are with DDR4, A/C wireless, 6th Gen Intel iXs, with future proof support. I happen to use an HP at my office (Government Agency) and I can say with confidence as well as all my fellow co-workers, THEY ARE HORRIBLE, both their towers and laptops.

Lechmere was an appliance/home furniture/home products, more like a Target, but they did have a HUGE PC and Electronics section. I remember selling the first digital cameras as a household item. They had a huge selection of CDs for music, and audio devices. So it was a combination of many household products, with a little more emphasis on new electronics, TV, PCs, Macs, Camera, Camcorders, it was exciting at that time

With my employee discount (I was so proud, lol) I bought my first Sony Trinitron TV there. Wow, I was so excited, and couldn't wait till HD, as our government sort of talked about the digital transition to happen in 1993-94, so sad. That was when Japan was still going strong!

 

Hyundai used to be a "chaebol" (Korean conglomerate), but apparently that broke up in 2003. (Wikipedia, again.) I'm unsure whether any of the fragments still make PCs. (Probably not. Margins were low even before the current PC market decline.)

I haven't any recent experience with HP. My former employer used Dell for as long as I was there (2001 on). I'd expect HP to be competitive, and a quick look at their web site shows that they sell $1k desktops with Gen 6 Intel CPUs. If you're getting older tech, I'd blame it on the purchasing people at your agency, or at least the rules they are forced to work under. Even at my former employer, some things were routinely purchased that made no sense. Example: if you needed a new monitor, they could hand you one from their stock. It was a 22" with a 16:10 aspect ratio: 1680 X 1050 pixels. I didn't know that Dell still made those. (Maybe they don't, and are simply dumping old stock. I would have much preferred 1920 X 1080, as I used software that benefitted from lots of horizontal pixels.)

The Japanese had an analog HD TV format years before the all-digital US HDTV standard. It required more bandwidth, which I suppose is one reason the FCC didn't support it. Another reason may have been to give US manufacturers an advantage. If so, it was a waste of time. AFAIK, there have been no US TV makers for at least a few years. (ABC TV had a "made in America" feature where they stripped a family's house and refurnished it only with US made stuff. No TV.) RCA is French owned; I don't know who owns the Westinghouse name. Neither makes TVs in this hemisphere, AFAIK.

 

I agree on "Nothing Made here anymore". You go to upstate NY (Have an aunt who lives up there) and it is pretty bad, places like Syracuse, Utica, Rochester, Buffalo, everything they had to manufacture has either moved or folded. Can't blame Trump for at least mentioning it, I think he did a rally up in Rome NY - once again Grifiss Air Force Base has closed, lol. Albany is about the only growth story, being its the Capital.

About HP, they actually did a major overhaul of their website, and introduced some sleek new laptops. That is fairly new, about 9 months ago or less. Before there revamping, I am serious, they sold crappy machines, and were always using old technologies instead of latest cutting edge. Dell is about the same, but just a tad bit better. HP has a sleek new thin gold notebook (forgot the name), and it is pretty solid with specs. But if your buying laptops online and paying middle dollars, they don't use A/C wireless cards, they still ONLY use DDR#, I mean things like that are annoying, still have online purchases with Windows 8, or Windows 7 specs, but as I say, they have revamped, and done well. I have a friend who works for HP in sales, and they sell there new lines better than expected.

No TVs made in USA, the only thing I can think of that is made in USA might be niche products, like specialty clothing that you buy online, just mom and pop stores, local mini brews, it is pretty sad when you have to hear that from Donald Trump and not from Hillary. He was saying how his friend is in constructing new plants for manufacturing, and in Mexico, it is booming, and they build top of the line fabs!

Makes me sick about our Politicians, and there really isn't anyway to get around that, they have been bought off for years, and no one is gonna tell me different, plus they can pay cheap help, bring it over here to the largest consumer and get big bucks for a low paid fab product! Makes me VERY sick!

 

Hyundai PCs might have been a Korean household name without us knowing it...

 

If you're getting older tech, I'd blame it on the purchasing people at your agency, or at least the rules they are forced to work under.

Yep, but of course, I work for the State! They just went through a HUGE overhaul of there IT people, and we are still using 32 bit OS, on old Core 2 Duos... It is so pathetic, but I have heard everything is going to be computed from the cloud or their main data center. So big changes at NYS, Cuomo thinks he is King, and of course he'll run in 2020 to save the world! Cannot stand that guy!

When I was growing up, the word was 93 we would have high Def TVs, at 720 P on a flat screen. Of course that never materialized till around 2001. So the Japs were way ahead of us, and we still were with CRTs. It was such a disappointment, and even now, Cable (TWC) still produces a 720P signal, or 1080i, in 2016! I have heard they might skip 1080P and go directly to UHD or 4K eventually. Most Americans aren't concerned about how they watch TV but what type of gun shooting, sex, and drugs is on prime time.

 

If I could just eke out a 15% better CPU on here, this thing will last for a good 2-3 more years. If you ever see a Pentium D Extreme Edition 955 or 965 please let me know. I might try a C2D, while I update my BIOS, as there is a 2010 Update. Seems odd to come out with a 2010 Update from a BIOS that was made in 2005. I think that was for a C2D... Thanks!

 

Speaking of Upgrades, I just installed the Windows 10 Anniversary Update! It is amazing, I LOVE it! Lots more features, however, lots more to pay attention to. Best of both worlds, my iPhone 6 got new life by upgrading to iOS10. Amazing as well! What a great world! Nah

 

Giving up on finding a Pentium D 965 Extreme Edition... But the Gateway is doing well so far! Installation went smooth for the newest Windows 10 Vesion (1607) Build 14393.187

Question to Bobkn

If I buy a laptop that has Windows 10 Pre-Installed on a HDD 5400 RPM, and I want to take that out and install a SSD, can I just go on to the Microsoft website and clean install Windows 10 (whatever the same edition was on the original HDD) with no problems? I remember you saying, once Windows is in the mobo, it doesn't matter how many times you can re-install Windows 10 as long as you have a genuine Windows 10 product key?

I rather do a clean install, this laptop PC will have a lot of bloatware, ones that slow the machine down to begin with, so either way, even if I just keep the 5400 mechanical drive, or slip in a 256 GIG SSD, I would need to clean install. I should have any issues, correct? Just create the "media tool" and boot into a DVD or USB, correct? Anyone?

 

you would also need to download the Drivers for a clean install , though Win10 Update may have many , most laptops have all sorts of Drivers for battery management etc that WinUpdate may not apply.

You may need to pop open the case to put in a SSD , many laptops now do not have the old style HDD Compartment on the bottom , or even a battery compartment... (now built-in) such as the Lenovo I worked on recently.....look for a disassembly guide online.

And yes Win10 should be in the Firmware/UEFI on a Win10 Laptop , so there should be no issues with the Key , just skip that question and it should auto activate once Windows is installed.


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