Windows 10: What The @#$#%#^% Is Going On With Malwarebytes

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  1. Golden Win User

    What The @#$#%#^% Is Going On With Malwarebytes


    When Malwarebytes first appeared on the scene, it was highly regarded : outsanding protection & a nimble organisation that was quick to satisfy user requests.

    Unfortunately, something changed when they decided to grow from their core focus. Although its protection is still outstanding, for me Malwarebytes now has a tarnished reputation. The facts are that over the last few years there have been 3 (or is it 4?) major updates that have gone seriously wrong with a significant impact of systems - those of you that have used it for several years may recall systems being turned into bricks.

    I no longer use it, or recommend it, because in my opinion there is just no way of knowing what you are going to get with these major updates.
     
    Golden, Feb 4, 2018
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  2. johngalt Win User

    Which is still about as many as any other anti-malware program out there, with the added benefit of not having stolen anyone else's definitions at all, and also having a consistently highly-rated detection engine. But you're within your right to use or not use any product.

    For those who are still using, and those who are just curious what they are doing over there in Illinois, here is a fresh document explaining what steps they plan on implementing to help prevent this from happening again:

    https://www.malwarebytes.com/pdf/WebProtectionFP.pdf
     
    johngalt, Feb 6, 2018
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  3. firefox Win User
    firefox, Feb 8, 2018
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  4. What The @#$#%#^% Is Going On With Malwarebytes

    Hi,
    Anyone willing to use beta updates get what happens *Smile

    As far as updating automatically
    mbam's default setting to update every hour is pretty bazaar and should be switched to once a day instead to lower ones chances of catching a bad update.

    By all accounts though system images weekly would limit effects greatly *Smile
     
    ThrashZone, Feb 8, 2018
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  5. swarfega Win User
    The two things that keep me using it are its solid detection and lifetime license that I got before they changed. None of its competitors offer the same long license.

    I find myself checking it regularly to see if its updating and functioning as expected.
     
    swarfega, Feb 8, 2018
    #65
  6. You're right about solid detection. I don't frequent dangerous places, but now and then some innocent link goes astray and MBAM has nailed them. Naturally I missed the Lifetime License opportunity, but I'm sticking with the paid version until something else pops up again.
     
    Wiley Coyote, Feb 9, 2018
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  7. Porthos Win User
    Nothing about what happend was releated to any BETA.

    You can change that setting if you wish.*Wink if you wish to lower your chances of that bad database. With as many updates a day(15 or so) I personally like the hourly.

    Best answer for computer users
     
    Porthos, Feb 9, 2018
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  8. Golden Win User

    What The @#$#%#^% Is Going On With Malwarebytes

    Is that really the case though @johngalt ?

    Being a long time user of various AV products including MSE and Norton on various systems in recent years, I don't recall them having quite the significant impact when major updates fail. Maybe I missed that, but happy to stand corrected.
     
    Golden, Feb 9, 2018
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  9. Clintlgm Win User
    Well, i have a lifetime lic and 4 paid licenses. Fortunately, I do create daily backup images. We this hit my system, I simply restored C partition to the day before an turned off MBAM Until I seen here the issue was fixed and turned it back on. I find MBAM a worthwhile program this was quite a shocking situation. Usually, it's a WU that this happens with for me at least. I also run Norton I have found over the years the 2 work well together. I'll continue using both until something better comes along.
     
    Clintlgm, Feb 9, 2018
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  10. Hi,
    I wouldn't consider either one of those examples even close to mbam's effectiveness
    Norton being a joke and MSE bottom of the barrel *Smile
     
    ThrashZone, Feb 9, 2018
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  11. johngalt Win User
    Inside joke - Marcin is from Illinois (I beleive, memory is getting fuzzy), and he attended UI, which is where I was considering going for my Ph. D, and where my Dad also got his Ph. D.

    Anyone using Windows gets what they deserve. Yeah, that is a l*nix / Apple fanboy quote, and yours just sounded suspiciously like a fanboy. Think about that for a moment.

    I would use it without the lifetime license because of its solid detection, but I also use it because of the community, and the quick fixes when a problem arises.

    All of the above. I prefer to continual update checks because I'm more protected from 0-day discoveries than I am if I check only once a day.

    I started using NAV when it was NAV for DOs 4.5 (?). I also worked for various companies, including IBM Global Services, that made use of Symantec Antivirus Corporate edition, which I ran for multiple years on my computers ~15 years ago - I've watched Norton and Sav CE completely hose corporate workstations and end users' machines right in front of my eyes. The biggest detriment was when they decided that they were going to start managing spyware and crapware - saw and read about many, many machines that went stupid because the definitions were detecting legitimate program installs bundled with Spyware / adware, and hosing the entire program instead of just the *ware components.

    With M$E, when it first came out, I was the biggest proponent - but M$ let it slide into oblivion while pushing Defender instead. Last I used M$E (on Win7) it was regarded as *THE* joke AV solution. Although, I will say that M$E in its short life definitely on had 1 really bad update - the rest of the issues were all ßeta version issues, IIRC....


    Actually, Norton was the premier AV of its day - you have to realize that it has been around for close to 30 years now. And M$E was, also, when introduced, that hands down best AV - it was lighter on resources than any other AV at the time of its introduction, and sported equal (if not surpassing) detection records to every other AV it was compared to.

    Judging the past performance of either product on its performance today is a fallacy. You have to realize that M$E came out after Malwarebytes did, but not by much (about 1.5-2 years, IIRC), and if we still had access to the old MBAM forums, you'd see where nearly every security researcher as well as malware removal specialist was recommending the combination of MBAM and M$E.
     
    johngalt, Feb 9, 2018
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  12. Golden Win User
    Thanks for the info @johngalt

    Interestingly, in all my time troubleshooting BSOD's over at SF, the only AV I ever saw that never triggered a BSOD was MSE (makes perfect sense) and MBAM.....some that were apparently caused by MBAM were in fact because of outdated network drivers. Things may have changed since then, but I do recall never finding a BSOD caused by those two.
     
    Golden, Feb 10, 2018
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  13. johngalt Win User

    What The @#$#%#^% Is Going On With Malwarebytes

    Interesting. I am not surprised that all of the BSODs that came in originally pointing to MB(AM) were in fact not MB(AM) related. I wold not have guessed that network (and other) drivers were the culprit, though.

    SODs are one aspect of Windows which I paid little attention to because I encountered them so rarely myself, and when I did encounter them, I usually did my own research and figured out or, (in rare instances) clean installed and made it go away.

    Of course, with Windows 10, and especially with the Insider Preview builds, I'm rather sure that I've encountered more of those little buggers than I ever did in all my time running 2000 Pro, XP, and 7 combined lol.
     
    johngalt, Feb 10, 2018
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  14. Hi,
    You couldn't be more wrong about me and being a fanboy of either of those os'e *Smile
     
    ThrashZone, Feb 10, 2018
    #74
  15. I've not had a BSOD in ??? (years, maybe) and I've been running Malware Bytes for a very long time, on multiple PC's, running multiple OS's. The program itself seems to be pretty solid.

    I would have to advise looking elsewhere for a problem.

    *Nerd
     
    TechnoMage, Apr 5, 2018
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