Windows 10: Why am I being forced to change my PIN?

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  1. Why am I being forced to change my PIN?


    I am told that "my organisation" requires me to change my PIN. There is now a "PIN Requirements" link saying I need at least 5 digits and sequences not allowed. This is my own PC, not any organisations. I've had the same PIN quite happily for some long time and I don't want to change it. What's going on?

    :)
     
    rawleJeremiah, Jun 28, 2020
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    Arun B J, Jun 28, 2020
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  3. IntRins2 Win User
    Why am I being forced to change my PIN?

    I had tried altering the policy settings on the original installation without success. I had not tried it on the rebuild because I suspected it would cause problems. Rightly so, as I have now tried it.

    On the one hand, I can allow alpha sequences, "aaaa" is accepted. This is crazy, why is this OK when "1234" is not? But then plain numeric PINs are disallowed, at least one alpha is required (not just permitted), so the existing accounts which were still
    working OK are being forced to change their PINs. Removing the requirements does not get out of this trap, the PINs have been invalidated.

    And also, an Enter key is required, a completed PIN is no longer detected automatically. This does not work for me, because I am trying to sign in blind, without seeing the lock screen and PIN dialog box. This is because the screen blanking on switching
    user causes my monitor to go to sleep for some long time before it redisplays, and I don't need to wait for it if I can just keep hitting the required key until I get into the session. No doubt that's a minority issue, but there is no need to force a "more
    secure" PIN on people who don't need it, just because some noisy corporate types have been shouting. My PC is in a safe place and only I use it, it doesn't need any more security.

    I have now reverted the PC to v1607/build 14393, removed it from the Insider program, and deferred feature upgrades to delay being subjected to this issue as far as possible. There's nothing in 1703 that I'll miss, quite the opposite, I'll go back to having
    CMD available in Explorer.

    I have already posted in Feedback Hub, I will add a link to this thread.
     
    IntRins2, Jun 28, 2020
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  4. IntRins2 Win User

    Why am I being forced to change my PIN?

    Why am I being forced to change my PIN?

    I had discovered that. In fact it is wrong, the settings are in System, not Windows Components, they have been moved in v1703 just to confuse me further. I only discovered this after careful study of Windows10andWindowsServer2016PolicySettings.xlsx. See:


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    And also see that none of these policies had been configured, far less enabled. So why did I have to change my PIN? Why is there no setting to control the disallowance of sequences? I cannot get rid of this and I need to, to make using this multi-account
    PC practical.

    I have temporarily and partially fixed it by clean-installing v1607, setting up the accounts with the desired PINs, and upgrading to v1703. The PINs are currently being accepted, but I am expecting them to be expired after the default 6 weeks. And I cannot
    set up a new account without being trapped by the sequence requirement.

    This is unacceptable interference with my PC. You can see how much of my time it is wasting. Turn it off. I don't need it and I don't want it.
     
    IntRins2, Jun 28, 2020
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