Windows 10: Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating"

Discus and support Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" in Windows 10 Updates and Activation to solve the problem; Hi ALL, My main desktop PC updated to Win 10 Ann Ed without any problem as did my sister's desktop. I was over to my sister's house the other day... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Updates and Activation' started by gerryex, Oct 3, 2016.

  1. gerryex Win User

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating"


    Hi ALL,

    My main desktop PC updated to Win 10 Ann Ed without any problem as did my sister's desktop. I was over to my sister's house the other day and doing something on her PC when I went to shut it down I was offered 4 choices:

    Restart with updates
    Restart without updates
    Shutdown with updates
    Shutdown without updates

    I never saw the option to Restart or Shutdown without doing the updates and would like that option. I went into the Update settings on my PC hoping to find some setting to allow those options but I didn't find anything.

    Does anyone know how to turn on that option?

    Thanks,
    Gerry

    :)
     
    gerryex, Oct 3, 2016
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  2. musum Win User

    " SOFTWARE UPDATE FAILED "

    SO HERE'S THE LINK TO THAT PIC

    http://i26.tinypic.com/2ihbdco.jpg

    CAN U PLZ CHECK IT ACTUALLY I HAVE USED THE NOKIA SOFTWARE UPDATER B4 ... BUT I DONT KNW WHY I M GETTING THIS ERROR NOW
     
    musum, Oct 3, 2016
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  3. musum Win User
    " SOFTWARE UPDATE FAILED "

    i have installed windows xp sp2

    previously i was using windows media center i thought i might b facing this probs due to that but then i changed it to windows xp ! n moreover i have also shown to nokia service center executives but they were not having the latest updates available ......
    my pc suite is showing that new update version of firmware is available but i cudnt download it Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" :(

    oh gawd wat to do ? Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" :(

    i tried in another pc then again i got an error u need to have minimum 256 ram Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" :(

    please cant it b rectified ? there must b any solution to this probs please help me guyz

    god bless all of u thanx Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" :)
     
    musum, Oct 3, 2016
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  4. simrick Win User

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating"

    I'd like to see those options too! I have W10 Home + Pro systems - they don't have it. I suspect your sister has another edition; maybe education or enterprise?
     
    simrick, Oct 3, 2016
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  5. gerryex Win User
    Nope! As far as I know she has Win 10 Home same as me. The next time I go there I'll double check and get the exact version and release she has and compare it to mine, but again I'm 99 44/100 % sure its the same as mine!

    Gerry
     
    gerryex, Oct 3, 2016
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  6. lx07 Win User
    You get those options when windows update has downloaded an update but you've not elected to install it. In this case it will be the cumulative updates on top of 1607 most likely.

    If you haven't got the message about the update being downloaded (where it says we will do this at 03:00 am) or you didn't say "Restart now") then when you shutdown (or restart) it will give you option of doing so with or without the upgrade automatically. Certainly I get it automatically and I always shut down with *Start + X then U. Perhaps if you shutdown some other way you don't get the option.

    All versions of 10 do this (at least Pro and Server TP5 do) and there has been something similar since 7 at least by pressing Alt+F4 to shutdown...Shut Down Windows Without Installing Updates | PCWorld
     
    lx07, Oct 3, 2016
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  7. Kari Win User
    There's nothing different in Windows 10 on your sister's machine and yours, all behave the same way. There's nothing you can do / change to show or not show restart / shutdown options, whether to restart or shutdown with or without update.

    Those shutdown / restart options are available in all editions of Windows 10, and have been there over a year now, since a few builds before November Update version 1511. It's the nature of update that determines if option to shutdown / restart without updating is shown or not. Some updates require immediate restart, some not.

    The option to choose restart or shutdown with or without update is offered when the update is not critical, not necessary to do immediately. For instance, when a Windows 10 Insider Preview (be it Home, Pro, Education or Enterprise edition) has downloaded a build upgrade and you are shown Restart now prompt in Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update, you don't have to do the upgrade immediately. Instead, you can find shutdown / restart options in Start. The shutdown options shown in Start let you in this case choose Update and Restart, Update and Shutdown ​(in which case upgrade continues next time PC is powered on), or postpone the upgrade simply by selecting Restart or Shutdown. These options will then be available about a week, the same maximum time period Restart options in Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Restart options allows you to postpone the automatic restart with upgrade.
     
    Kari, Oct 3, 2016
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  8. simrick Win User

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating"

    Never have seen those options in my machines, ever.
     
    simrick, Oct 3, 2016
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  9. Kari Win User
    The fact that you have not noticed them does not automatically mean they do not exist. I've had them for instance with every build upgrade, that's how I always postpone the upgrade to a more convenient time.

    I'll get a screenshot when the next Insider build comes, probably later this week. I can promise to get the screenshot because I know those options will be there when it's time to upgrade.
     
    Kari, Oct 3, 2016
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  10. simrick Win User
    I'm going to pay extra special attention to all my systems, and see if I get it. *Smile All my systems are out of the Insider now.
     
    simrick, Oct 3, 2016
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  11. gerryex Win User
    What about Alt-F4. I don't have any pending updates so when I use it and there are no other windows open a dialog box comes up with a few selections including Shutdown and Restart. Is it possible when an update is pending that there will also be options to do either but without updating?

    Also what about Ctl-Alt-Del. When you use that you get a blue screen with some options such as starting the Task Manager. But in the lower right there are 3 icons including a power button icon. Again with no updates pending the only options are Restart or Shutdown. But if I remember correctly if there are updates pending then it also has those options but without updating.

    Gerry
     
    gerryex, Oct 3, 2016
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  12. Kari Win User
    All shut down / restart options are always shown in all four Shut down menus and drop down lists (Start > Shut down options, right click Start > Shut down or Sign out, ALT + F4, Sign in screen). It is irrelevant which method you use to show the options and select your Shut down / Restart option, they are always the same in all four methods.
     
  13. Kari Win User

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating"

    OK, I decided not to wait next Insider build upgrade to get screenshots and this thing cleared. What I did instead was the fastest way I could think of getting the screenshots: I installed an older Windows 10 PRO Insider Preview (I used build 14926) on a test machine, opted in to Fast Ring upgrades, and waited until Windows Update found the upgrade.

    When upgrade files had been downloaded and prepared for the upgrade process, the Restart now button was shown in Settings. Using Restart options I could have postponed an automatic restart almost a week (system allows you to postpone it to the end of the sixth day after upgrade has been downloaded and prepared):

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" [​IMG]


    Regardless if I use Restart options or not, now I have the option to select either Update and Shut down / Restart, or Shut down / Restart without update (upgrade), whatever method I use to show shut down options.

    In three first screenshots below #1 = Windows version and edition, #2 = showing that a new Insider build has been downloaded and prepared, #3 = shut down options. As #1 & #2 can't be shown in sign-in screen, the fourth screenshot from the same machine only shows shut down options.

    Start:


    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" [​IMG]


    Right click Start:

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" [​IMG]


    ALT + F4:

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" [​IMG]


    Sign-in screen:

    Win 10 Ann Ed - "Shutdown without updating" [​IMG]


    The option to shut down or restart without update / upgrade will not be there forever; depending on which non-critical update or upgrade gives you this option it might be there only a day or two, or as in case of build upgrade, the option to postpone it and shut down or restart without upgrading is available the same amount of time that is the max time you can select in restart options, to the end of the sixth day after upgrade has been downloaded and prepared.

    I used build upgrade now to get the screenshots but it is by far not the only update / upgrade offering these options. Just remember, all critical updates need to be installed immediately, therefore option to shut down or restart without update is not always shown.

    When Windows decides it's no longer possible to postpone the update / upgrade, option to shut down or restart without updating / upgrading is no longer shown
     
  14. simrick Win User
    Thanks for that Kari. I've used the custom restart time in the past when it's been available. I just don't recall having the option to shutdown without installing - even when I set the custom install date for several days out. Wonder why...*Confused
     
    simrick, Oct 4, 2016
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  15. Kari Win User
    I wanted to show with these screenshots that what I said earlier really is valid information. I said this yesterday, quite arrogantly (yes, I admit that):

    However, the arrogance had a reason: I knew that I just have to wait for an upgrade if no other update would offer those options before that, latest then could I for 100% sure get the screenshots. The option to shutdown or restart without updating is always there after a build upgrade, and after certain non-critical updates.
     
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