Windows 10: win10.0.122 and privacy

That's not exactly what it says. Here's the actual screen:





Now, what that's saying is that you're allowing Microsoft access to your contacts, calendar, and associated input data *for the purposes of personalizing speech, typing and inking input*. When Microsoft says something is for a specific purpose, they cannot legally use it for a different purpose.

This is like the huge stir up a while back about there being a "keylogger" in Windows 10 based on the Privacy policy, when all they were doing was laying out the fact that certain functions require data to be sent to them, such as spell checking as you type.

It's unfortunate that Microsoft feels the need to "dumb down" this text to describe in real technical detail what they use it for, but they apparently feel doing that would confuse users even more.

Now, notice the 4th setting. See how it explicitly says "and trusted partners"? Why would they do that if they thought they could legally send private data to their partners based on their privacy policy? The answer, is that there are very specific laws governing what companies can and can't do with personal data. And the privacy policy doesn't give them carte blanc to do that.

Here's Microsoft's privacy statement for Windows 10 (taken from the link in the Privacy dialog in settings)

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...vacy-statement

The only place they say that they will share data with partners is this:

"Microsoft shares some data with our partners to improve how their products and services work with Microsoft’s products and services". Note that "some". This does not give them carte blanc to share your personal data without opting-in under the law.

It also says it may share with parthers who are working for them, but that's a totally different situation. Because they are working as Microsoft's agents, they must abide by the same privacy laws.

 

It says exactly what Bill said it said. You are giving your interpretation of it @Mystere.
I highlighted what Slartybart said, and he is right.. it says that plain as day. If you want to pick apart what everyone says that s fine, but it clearly shows/says exactly what Slartybart (Bill) said.

 

No, he left out the first part of the sentence, which completely changes what the sentence means. "Personalize your speech, typing, and inking input by...", leaving that out removes the *purpose* of the action, making it seem like you're just sending the data to Microsoft to do with as they please.

This is legally binding stuff here, so it's not "picking it apart". You can't take a sentence out of context and then argue that it means something in the context you are portraying, when it's not in that context.

 

No he referred to what it says, and it says exactly that. I pointed that out in my pic.

You are not a lawyer here, so stop nit picking and posting your take on it. You are taking your opinion of it and saying he took it out of context. Then you say "This is legally binding stuff here". I doubt you are a lawyer so I suggest you "Lighten Up"

 

Ahh, I see.. it's perfectly acceptable to speculate about legal meanings when you think you are right, but you must tell everyone else to shut up because they're not a lawyer.

If you think my interpretation is invalid because i'm not a lawyer, then how do you take his, and what he claims is legally allowed? The problem here is that you're defending someone through the use of a double standard. And that's where you get into trouble.

The fact of the matter here is that everyone is free to make their own decisions.

And for the record, it does not say *EXACTLY* what he said. That's like claiming "I love murderers" is *exactly what someone says" when they actually said "I hate everyone who says "I love murderers".

That's called taking a sentence out of context, when you only take part of it, and then argue based on the new meaning.

 

No that is not what I mean. He stated what was out there and here is a quote from the end of his opening post

"There is nothing implied by this post, business is business.
You simply should be aware of the terms."

You are entitled to your opinion too, I am not taking sides.

I am just saying I disagree with you on this one. Your posting style to me has been somewhat abrasive, but that is my opinion.

My intent is not to fight with you @Mystere I just feel you are wrong here. And you feel I am wrong here, so I will just agree to disagree here

 

I'm sorry but I agree with Mystere's interpretation.

 

Nothing to be sorry about Rocky, everyone can have their own opinion.

 

Thanks Dude,

I'm glad you read the thread as it was intended and see that there are multiple lines that give Microsoft the benefit of doubt.

Let it go - the more oxygen you feed a flame, the bigger it grows.

Bill
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Will do Bill, apologies for hijacking the thread.

 

No apology needed. There's an unofficial rule that says something along the lines of "By the third post, the thread must go off topic" *Wink

Perhaps there needs to be a new unofficial rule:
"Someone must subvert the intent of the thread and interject their personal opinion based on a misinterpretation. This subversion can only take place on the first comment of a thread. Subsequent posts that subvert the thread are covered under the hijack rules. See section 5, sub-section IX, paragraph 7 and amendment 43 paragraph 12"
*Roflmao2

 

Hipsie, Microsoft has a Partner program that businesses can join; at one time, I was a Partner. So yeah, there are literally thousands (over 500,000?) of Microsoft Partners.

 

And I don't! How can giving my contact information and calendar to Microsoft personalize my speech, typing and inking?

Let's take it a step further . . . Can I legally give Microsoft or anyone else my contact information? Generally, I have my contacts' name, address, phone number, email address, physical address, company name, company physical address, phone number, etc. I kinda don't think my contacts would appreciate my giving up their information to anyone.

 

Thank you, Bill. This is very enlightening. These are things we need to know as we move forward.

 

. . .now see you are on the internet and I learned something new about you for my data base I am putting together on you. . .big brother is watching. . .*Biggrin