Windows 10: Windows 10 Backup Versus Acronis Backup 12

Discus and support Windows 10 Backup Versus Acronis Backup 12 in Windows 10 Backup and Restore to solve the problem; System imaging means you can restore your system from an image in a tiny fraction of the time to install the OS, do all its updates, install programs,... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Backup and Restore' started by Stecyk, Sep 12, 2016.

  1. Stecyk Win User

    Windows 10 Backup Versus Acronis Backup 12


    I am curious as to why it takes you days.

    To be honest, I am probably due for a complete reinstall. My computer began as Win 8.0 and is now current with Windows 10, three years later. If and when I do a complete reinstall, I am sure I will be looking for some advice. Using CCleaner Professional, I have a list of all my software. Because of some personalized configuration settings with my Adobe Software, I'd want to make sure I backed that up. Aside from that, I think I could pretty much wipe the C drive clean and start over. I likely wouldn't be back to completely normal after a few hours, but I suspect I would be 70 percent complete. And over the next several days, I would continue to add as required.

    I am hoping I don't have to do a complete reinstall for a while, which is the purpose of a backup. However, it wouldn't be such a bad thing either.
     
    Stecyk, Sep 12, 2016
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  2. dalchina New Member

    It does if I do it manually (which I usually don't); I have a large number of programs to install, plus some data to transfer (not only simple stuff in folders), plus scheduled tasks + various programs to configure.

    Simply installing all the programs takes many hours. Almost none of my personal data is on C: so that's not a factor.
    My Start Menu uses iconised folders matching the folders into which I install programs.

    I keep all the relevant downloaded files, so these are available, and I have all my licenses in one encrypted file, so it's not a matter of being disorganised!
     
    dalchina, Sep 12, 2016
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  3. Stecyk Win User
    dalchina, You seem to have an elaborate configuration compared to me. My main software is Adobe CC (various programs) and Microsoft Office 365. Aside from that, I still have other important programs that I use, but the list manageable. Almost all of my personal data is on my other drives. My C drive is just os and software. I have all my licenses, too, though not as neatly organized as you with your encrypted file. I like that idea. I have most of my stuff stored in Outlook.

    Thank you for your reply.
     
    Stecyk, Sep 12, 2016
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  4. Mooly Win User

    Windows 10 Backup Versus Acronis Backup 12

    It would take me many hours to clean install as well. I even made a list of all the steps as I do them because then that makes it easier not to forget anything and also allows you to install and set things up in the best order.

    Clean installing W10 takes around 15 to 20 minutes on my main system. There are a couple of dedicated drivers needed that Windows doesn't locate such as card reader and audio etc. Then there is all the customising, arranging the start menu, changing the fonts so it all looks good. Creating custom shortcuts. Setting up Edge with 40 or more sites most of which need login details entering. All my programs, all their customising. All my data needs arranging and libraries creating.

    That is one reason I make so many backups. I also run Windows file history which is great as both a file backup and also an archiving tool for quickly used and discarded files (where you wish you had kept something).


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    I would say probably around 10 to 12 hours work to get it all finalised.
     
    Mooly, Sep 13, 2016
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  5. lx07 Win User
    If you use a Microsoft account Edge remembers all your log-in details / passwords on a clean install. Very handy I think. Of course I have my cunningly named Passwords.docx to fall back on in case of issues with it.

    For me to do a clean install, install office 365 etc and do my limited tweaking (almost all of which is scripted) takes me about an hour - perhaps a little more but not much.

    Apart from Office almost all my programs (another 40 or 50 I guess) are portable. I just use a script to add the start menu entries - their preferences are stored in their own config files so nothing to do there.

    All depends I guess. I'd make more OS backups if clean install took me days that is for sure.
     
  6. Stecyk Win User
    Can you please expand on your Windows file history. I am assuming (though I might be incorrect) that you use a backup program plus Windows File History, which is Windows Backup?

    Out of curiosity, do you periodically do a clean reinstall, and if so, how often?

    Thank you for your reply.
     
    Stecyk, Sep 14, 2016
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  7. Stecyk Win User
    It's interesting to read that many of you customize your start menu. I have my favorite 15 programs or so anchored to the Taskbar and use Windows Key plus Q to call up whatever program I want. I suspect I am inefficient, so I should investigate customizing the Start menu. Although, my method does seem to suit my needs rather well.

    I should take an inventory of my programs this weekend and note which ones I want to capture customized settings. Make sure that those are all available. Otherwise, I think I am in reasonable shape.

    Thanks everyone for providing your thoughts with regard to backup solutions. For now, I am inclined to stick with Acronis. It solves my immediate concerns. But I do appreciate learning of other solutions.
     
    Stecyk, Sep 14, 2016
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  8. Mooly Win User

    Windows 10 Backup Versus Acronis Backup 12

    Windows Backup consists two separate things.

    1/ A file and folder backup that just backs up your user files (documents/music/pictures etc). I have never used this feature.
    2/ Windows System Image which is a true image of the complete disk and contains everything... operating system, the lot.

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    Windows File History copies all your chosen user files (docs/pictures/music etc) to a location of your choice. That can even be a separate partition on the main drive. Once they are copied it then keeps those files but also adds to them whenever a change is made such as adding a new file or even changing the contents of one. So you have a complete record (a copy) of every file you have ever used, ever downloaded, or ever changed. You can restore the files easily or you can just browse them as normal use file explorer. Its brilliant and I do sometimes use it. For example I suddenly think, yes I remember that picture or file I downloaded last April or whenever. I read it and binned it and its long gone... but not with file history. Its still there.

    The only time I clean install is when I feel there is a genuine need such as last month when the Windows Anniversary Edition appeared. I preferred a clean install to an upgraded install. Using disk imaging means that if there is the slightest doubt that something untoward has happened, then I would rather just restore an image rather than wonder if something was compromised.
     
    Mooly, Sep 14, 2016
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  9. Stecyk Win User
    Thank you Wooly for your helpful response. I believe I am all set now.
     
    Stecyk, Sep 14, 2016
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  10. Mooly Win User
    Pleased you found it useful anyhow.

    Just a minute. Wooly *chuckle
     
    Mooly, Sep 14, 2016
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  11. ocwin10 Win User
    Late as this comment is, it may be a useful contribution for people asking similar questions...

    I regluarly use Acronis with Success. My machine is set-up using an SSD partitioned into three, to allow for the entire SSD to be Acronis "cloned" for a rapid (15 mins) re-installation as required. No user-files here, only software. The partitions are :

    SSD-Partition 1 : C-drive / WIn 10 + MS Office + utilities
    SSD-Partition 2 : F-drive / photography programmes (CS6 ; lightroom ; OnOne ; DxO ; etc ..)
    SSD-Partition 3 : V-drive / CS6 Scratch & cache
    Then :
    HDD/1-Partition 1 : relocated desktop + my docs + non-essential photos & files
    HDD/1-Partition 2 : email storage + business data & files, etc

    HDD/2 : All serious/important photographic files (storage/editing)
    HDD/2 : Internal backup disk, for daily file-backups

    USB HDD(s): External backups

    My process: once win 10 was installed & setup to my satisfaction, I cloned that. Then, when everything is setup as I like, the ENTIRE SSD is also cloned as a further backup (maintaining 3 or more). Any time new software is added or removed, a completely new backup is created & named. For a time, I keep more than one version, or system state, as a safeguard.

    I ensure the OS & softwares (on SSD) are totally independent of all User files (on HHD) & I maintain these backups/clones separately.

    This way, when problems occur due to a corruption, slowdown, or other, I re-install the entire SSD backup (Acronis) in only 15 minutes. Occasionally, I might re-install just a programme folder.

    True, I find Acronis GUI is not ideal, but it does save the day for me.

    Lastly, while I use MS Windows system restore-points regularly, this cannot be relied upon. Restore-Points can be deleted by MS when a major MS Update is installed. Evidently, MS can deem them irrelevant to the new update.

    Hope this helps ... *Smile
     
    ocwin10, Feb 17, 2017
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  12. Stecyk Win User
    @ocwin10, thank you for providing your experience in reinstalling Windows 10!
     
    Stecyk, Apr 5, 2018
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