Windows 10 boot loop question - USB OS load vs. System Reset

Discus and support Windows 10 boot loop question - USB OS load vs. System Reset in Windows 10 Support on Windows 10 Forums to solve the problem; PC worked great day one of my upgrade; games were running way better and I was happy with 10. However, last night I put the PC to sleep; when I woke... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Support' started by Gamingws34, Aug 7, 2015.

  1. Gamingws34 Win User

    PC worked great day one of my upgrade; games were running way better and I was happy with 10. However, last night I put the PC to sleep; when I woke up, I noticed PC on so I powered the monitor and the tool bar on the bottom left (cortana, windows button, etc) was not responsive. Upon restart, the PC loops repeatedly in this order: "Preparing Automatic Repair", window pops up and disappears then "Diagnosing your PC", then "Automatic Repair" with the options "Restart" and "Advanced Options". I've launched startup repair which fails, my BIOS does not have a DEP selector (Which fixes the issue for many users) in the CPU settings, system finds no restore points, flashes, etc.

    My only options now seem to be a system reset or USB boot; my question is this:

    What is the difference between USB boot and system reset? I don't want to lose anything, especially these huge game downloads that would take forever to re acquire on my now much slower internet. Also, are there any other options? Perhaps wait for a new version of Windows 10? Thanks in advance everyone,



    Paul

    :)
     
    Gamingws34, Aug 7, 2015
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  2. PA Bear - MS MVP Win User

    Windows 10 Boot Fail + Loop Question: USB OS load vs. System Reset

    Huh?
     
    PA Bear - MS MVP, Aug 7, 2015
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  3. GamingWS34 Win User
    Windows 10 Boot Fail + Loop Question: USB OS load vs. System Reset

    I was referring to the OS I have on the USB stick; which I am now assuming is the exact same thing as a System Reset. Any ideas?

    I tried booting in Safe Mode, but all I get when pressing F8 at startup is a choice of which Disc to Boot. If I use Windows built in Safe Mode, upon the required restart it does not activate - instead proceeding through "Preparing..." "Diagnosing..." then
    the "Restart" and "Advanced Options" loop again. I even went into the command prompt to change to legacy (bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy) but still I only get to choose which drive to boot from whilst pressing F8 at boot... no classic black and
    white "Safe Mode" screen to be seen...
     
    GamingWS34, Aug 7, 2015
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  4. simrick Win User

    Windows 10 boot loop question - USB OS load vs. System Reset

    Hi Paul and welcome to TenForums.

    I believe a system Reset will remove all apps not native to the operating system, files and user accounts, whereas a system Refresh should give you a choice of whether or not to keep your files/documents.

    Option #5 in this tutorial will show you how to boot from USB to enter repair mode:

    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...dows-10-a.html

    And this tutorial shows you how to Refresh your system:

    Refresh Windows 10

    Hope this helps. Let us know how it goes.
     
    simrick, Aug 7, 2015
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  5. YOU
    You Win User
    USB boot lets boot from a bootable USB drive. For example, if used the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool to make a thumbnail drive a bootable Windows setup, choosing that option allows to boot from it if it is plugged in and install Windows 7 or use recovery options. If r thumbnail drive just had a few pictures, then it would not boot, obviously, but USB drives specially configured with bootable media (such as Windows setup disc ISOs) can boot.
     
  6. YOU
    You Win User
    If go to Advanced Options, Startup Settings, click the Restart button, then press 4 on r keyboard to enter Safe Mode, will the computer boot then? It could be a virus or driver incompatibility. Drivers tend to automatically install in the first few hours that the computer is operational. If Safe Mode works, then can get to the desktop to do some diagnosing.
     
  7. Gamingws34 Win User
    Thanks everyone, I am going to get back to work on it sometime today; I will post my results :).
     
    Gamingws34, Aug 8, 2015
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  8. Gamingws34 Win User

    Windows 10 boot loop question - USB OS load vs. System Reset

    So, I tried booting in Safe Mode, but all I get when pressing F8 at startup is a choice of which Disc to Boot. If I use Windows built in Safe Mode, upon the required restart it does not activate - instead proceeding through "Preparing..." "Diagnosing..." then the "Restart" and "Advanced Options" loop again. I even went into the command prompt to change to legacy (bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy) but still I only get to choose which drive to boot from whilst pressing F8 at boot... no classic black and white "Safe Mode" screen to be seen... any ideas?
     
    Gamingws34, Aug 8, 2015
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  9. lx07 Win User
    If you have Windows 10 on USB or DVD you can do an in-place upgrade (i.e. upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 10 ). Boot from USB/DVD, install Windows 10 and take the option to keep apps and files - this is the default. It will then just replace Windows directory (you can run disk cleanup after to delete Windows.old).

    I did this today and it worked fine - all of my apps and programs (including Office etc) worked fine afterwards and no documents were lost. Obviously I had to run Windows update again after as all the updates to Windows (but not Office) had been lost and Windows had been reset to the ISO version.
     
    lx07, Aug 8, 2015
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  10. NUS
    Nus Win User
    How much spare hard disk space is there?

    You could potentially partition your drive and move the game folders onto the new partion, then nuke the old partition with a clean install. You could then move the games back and delete that partition if you want.

    If they're Steam games then you wont have any trouble running them again. I've done similar things with Steam, for other people, a number of times.
     
  11. simrick Win User
    My instructions in post #2 didn't work?
     
    simrick, Aug 8, 2015
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  12. Gamingws34 Win User
    I just double checked them and no, unfortunately they didn't help. Well, the first link shows me how to access Advanced Startup Options; which I can already do, even without the USB stick. Link #2 I'm sure would work, but I am trying to avoid a mass wipe of non windows apps.
     
    Gamingws34, Aug 8, 2015
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  13. Gamingws34 Win User

    Windows 10 boot loop question - USB OS load vs. System Reset

    When you booted from USB, after selecting your country, did you click repair my computer (underlined on bottom left of screen) and choose "reset my pc" from the advanced settings menu in windows 10? Or did you proceed with the onscreen prompt to continue?
     
    Gamingws34, Aug 8, 2015
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  14. simrick Win User
    Yes, sorry, you can keep your data, but you'll have to reinstall your applications. Best to do that, because if you want to get rid of the problem, this is, unfortunately, the way to do it.
     
    simrick, Aug 8, 2015
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  15. Gamingws34 Win User
    Thank you, I suppose I will use the USB stick to Reset it; so I won't have to re-download. Can't believe Safe Mode won't work though; I have never seen such a problem.
     
    Gamingws34, Aug 8, 2015
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