Windows 10: Windows 10 desktop 'stop' icon and cannot move icons

Well if you weren't logged into the admin account on 7 that would be the next place to be! *Biggrin If you had already seen 10 running and activated you wouldn't even have to worry about reverting back to 7 in order to see the second upgrade but simply go for the clean install. And when you do get 10 running you may find the present antivirus program is simply not new enough where you need the lateast version out to see that even install on 10 since the upgrade will automatically require a number of programs to be installed all over again anyways.

Someone else on another thread was apparently having problems with his av and had to see it removed long enough to get 10 on and running. You have to do what it takes to first see the upgrade install go on and activate to your system thete and then can turn around and a nice fresh clean install on without worry! That will automatically get you squared away.

From there you simply check the latest versions for 10 support if any apps won't go on. With the 2014 version of VIPRE on here I couldn't even get that to install even after a repair on the initial upgrade while Acronis True Image Home 2010 went onto the repaired copy of 10 without a hitch!

The 2016 beta for VIPRE was then tried out until the clean install came and then this year's version. So you shouldn't worry about nuking the present version right now that you have there since most likely that will need to be updated. Check with the support site in any case to see what that shows as far as 10 is concerned in case you end up needing some other program to replace the present. You definitely want to be logged in as the administrator for any changes like this.

 

Yeah I will try it under the Admin account.

I did upgrade from Win 7 Pro to Win 10 Pro but in the upgrade process I got some buggy stuff going on.

That is why I was hoping to do a Repair on 10 and hope that it fixed the buggy-ness.

However my issue at the moment is the error message that I am hoping, once I log on as admin, will let it do the repair.

If that fails then I will have to look to doing the clean install and all of the house keeping that entails so that all of my software will actually work.

Either that or continue using a buggy Win 10 that I can't move my icons around unless I boot into safe mode as well as to having slow performance issues.

And the saga continues.... *Sad

 

If you don't get anywhere with the upgrade as far as repairing the present 10 nstall better plan on a clean one to follow that! Out of the three upgrades so far two were found "Buggy"! The second desktop on the other hand being the smooth sailer seemed to be all set but I had plans to see 7 restored on a second drive I added in there. That just happened to be the first of two storage drives on the main build now in a micro atx mini tower case!

With the laptop the need for a clean install was obvious there! No visible Start button, the Settings screen totally blank, and no access at all to the AllApps! buggiest! The first on the main case saw a repair install you are wanting to try out and things went well while I was still going to see a clean one after the first week. See how it goes! Just be prepared for the need to see a clean install however.

 

I guess I can live in hope... *Wink

Thanks for the help though, its is most appreciated. I will touch back to see what I had to do in the finish (or if I have more questions *Smile)

 

Here I ran into some buggy upgrades from the start as several others have from what I have been reading across the forums here. But the clean install is often labeled the absolute "Last Resort" move when and if you are trying to preserve what is already on as far as programs and settings, etc.

Yet when trying the repair install option here the Program Files and Program Files(x86) along with the users folders were found all new with the second "Windows.old00" folder sitting next to the first Windows.old until that one was simply renamed to "Windows.Backup" once cleaning things to use as a temp back up folder. The subsequent run of the DiskCleanup tool settled the fate of those two fast however! *Biggrin

The few things I was able to get installed on the initial upgrade had to be reinstalled to the repair install again just to let you know about that particular information where the clean install option at this point is something to consider. But that will strictly your call to make there.

 

Yes, I'm late to the Windows 10 upgrade here.
But I did find a solution to the "cannot move icons" it's a work around.

First you need to make sure the Auto Arrange Icon is unchecked and then the Arrange Icon to Grid is checked off. You can move them one at a time or in groups/patterns at a time.

For groups/pattern hold the control key button down and left click on the ones you'll want to move, note they will move in that arranged pattern. Then right click Cut on those to move, next move your mouse's arrow to the far right top edge that you'd like them to land and right click again and click Paste.

I've found so far the Recycle Bin does not allow you to cut and paste, so I 1st sorted them by Type so it went up to the far left, then moved the others in a large groups/patterns. I hope this helps?

 

Welcome to the Ten Forums! RichRazz

You won't find any Arrange Grid option in 10. The only thing you will see however is which icons like the Recycle Bin you can have set to appear on the desktop as well as a check box allowing programs to change which ones will appear. I have a feeling you are getting settings seen with 7 confused with 10 there a bit.

There's been quite a few changes since 10 is now three versions newer. You now see on/off switches for a good number of things. With XP, Vista, and 7 you would typically see that option while so far it hasn't been found in 10.

 

Hi Night Hawk and thank you for the nice welcome.

When I did the free upgrade last night from Windows 7 to 10.
I'm not proud of this but I tend to keep a lot of folders and files and shortcuts up on my desktop, all knowing it slows the machine down.

So when I right click on an empty place on my Desktop I believe its Windows 10 now, unless I still have a Windows 7 view up, I see the choice Arrange by, then inside that are Auto Arrange Icon and Align Icons to Grid are the choices and they are functioning buttons not grayed out.

If I'm not fully over and onto Windows 10, I do admit it can be a bit confusing.
However I do see that I can not move these Icons straight up on the Desktop like in Windows 7, without the trick I'm using now.

Thank you,

 

Actually I prefer to keep the desktop entirely free of anything so I don't end up seeing a desktop that looks like..... *Eek*Eek*Eek





As seen in years past I should say! With all that since organized that leaves plenty of room for other things. *Biggrin





And even the RocketDock doesn't actually that much on it and set to auto hide on the secondary. Of course I never look at the view settings much when right clicking on the desktop itself where you would go for the items.





If the Auto Arrange is checked off you simply click to uncheck that. The Align to Grid will keep the shortcut icons from being bounced all over the place and disorganized if you have to hard boot for any reason such as a game locking up solid on you. I found that one out in years past while still running XP and it loved to crash! After the typical hard start hitting the reset button everything would be scrambled all over as far as the number of desktop shortcuts.

The original Quick Launch(XP, Vista later) as a headache at times trying to get things onto while the options seen since with 7 came in with pinning shortcuts and adding new tool bars cleaned all that up in no time. When first seeing 10 go on I simply recreated the exact same folders on C and proceeded to drag the shortcut into them as I go along each time when adding a new program on if not simply needing one for some system setting. Before 10 with the Control Panel now seen in the Start button's right click menu I even had a shortcut for that along with several for each item in the CP. That I simply name as the "System" folder.

 

I do understand what you are telling me and I have used that practice. What i4dat had originally asked / posted about, was what I had figured out without needing any additional software, a full version Windows 10 install, creating folders or any major changes as to how wont rearranged on the desktop due to the stop icon. I am only rearranging them by using the cut while on a icon right click and then pasting it while I am in an open area of the desktop, just making sure where your mouse arrow is located is where you'd like the icon to move to before you paste. Only trick is Auto Arrange Icon has to be unchecked like you have in your screen shot above. I appreciate all the advice and I wont bog you down anymore if this process doesn't work or help i4dat issue. Thank you and it was great sharing and hearing your knowledge.

 

When you have the Auto Arrange option checked up Windows decides where each new shortcut will end up. Even if you decided you want this here and that over there Windows does it Windows's way and puts it where it manages things. The irony is Windows has the final say once the system sees the next restart for whatever reason.

With the Align to Grid option enabled where you place any shortcut locks into an even spacing so the next won't bump into the first. The spacing not where the shortcut is placed prevents a pile up if you should happen to see a system hang requiring a hard boot. I ran into that often in years past going back to XP and why the Align to Grid option was always the choice here.

Now for i4dat simply unchecking those options, seeing a full restart, and then going back in to check of the Align to Grid item only may just be what is needed to refresh things. Sometimes Windows forgets it's manners as far as retaining settings where this can be a fast fix method.

 

Hey Guys, sorry for the long time getting back to this thread.

Turned out that in the end, that Windows decided to do a 'repair' and that repair ended up wiping everything off of the machine that did not come with Windows (like a clean install?) and I had to go hunting to put the software back on my machine.

So after putting all of the software that I could back on, and not putting on either of the Stardock programs back on, I have not experienced the problem again.

I'm guessing either the Start10 or the Deskscapes program was the issue (or it may be the upgrade was causing but I don't want to jinx the machine by putting those software packages back on and it causing the issue to come back).

But what has now ended up happening is that I have developed a problem with my Atech Flash Pro-57U USB 3.0 media card is now unrecognizable by the system and no longer works.

According to Win10 I have no card installed.

I think this may be a Win10 Driver issue but when you go to the Atech website, they don't list a driver at all, they must expect Windows drivers to be able to recognize the card and install drivers for it.

Its very frustrating....

Side note, if I have a windows 7 Home 32bit, can I upgrade that to a 64bit if doing a clean install? I never got the upgrade button because there is one optional update that will not install.

 

You can see a clean install of the 10 Home edition without the need for first seeing an upgrade to 10! Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First - Windows 10 Forums[2]=Installation%20and%20Setup

That will save an endless list of potential bugs often seen with upgrade installs regardless of what version of Windows is being upgraded to! Even following a clean install of one version the upgrade to the next newer ut ooooooo..... "buggy" at times!

I wouldn't know about Deskcades but the Start Menu 10 shouldn't be any concern at all. If 10 saw the Rest PC recovery option kick in that would wipe things clean as well as that upgrade install from 7 to 10 being more of a larger concern if things weren't put on fully! With any newer version the golden rule would be to see a test clean install first to see what works on it! From there you would either dual boot or replace the older version entirely. (was glad to dump XP when Vista came along after a brief dual boot. 7 saw Vista gone during beta for both 32bit and 64bit build before staying with the 64bit only!)

With the guide above you can swap over the 64bit as long as the hardwares you have see 64bit updates particularly for anything old that only saw 32bit drivers. Since 7 came out the increase in support for the 64bit platform has been wide spread while the software market is still primarily 32bit with most seeing the 64bit alternates or support both platforms.

The 64bit Windows still sees 32bit emulation so you only need to worry about finding newer versions of the programs you have on like your av program will likely have to see the latest build in order to even install on 10! The 2014 flavor here for the av program failed where I first saw the 2016 beta version go on following the repair of the initial upgrade where you could only install pc games and none of the usual softwares being one buggy upgrade. So expect some programs won't be able to even install at first sight since 10 is also three versions newer then 7 to start with.

Now as for bypassing the need to see the upgrade install first and while the second desktop sailed through it's own upgrade that was to be followed by a laptop's upgrade where that found the Start button missing, Start>Settings screen totally blank, and no access to the AllApps! Fortunately I had already planned the immediate clean install replacement to insure 10 would activate and then put on a second 64bit clean install for the 32bit 7 Home Premium laptop! I think you should see things go much better following the steps in the guide to avoid "Buggy Upgrades"! *Doh*What*Roflmao2