Windows 10: Windows 10 development.

Dev Exclusive How Microsoft built, and is still building, Windows 10

Emil Protalinski August 13, 2015 9:20 AM

Windows 10 for PCs arrived two weeks ago. Thankfully, we don’t need to wait years to say this will be a Microsoft operating system release like no other.
The most obvious clue is not the fact that Windows 10 was installed on more than 14 million devices in 24 hours, that you can get it for cheap or upgrade to it for free, nor even that it ships with a digital assistant and a proper browser. No, the big deal here is that Microsoft is turning its OS into a service, and that means as you read these words, it’s still being built.
For the next few years, we’ll be getting not just Windows 10 updates and patches, but new improvements and features. This is possible because Microsoft built this version very differently from all its previous releases.

How Microsoft built, and is still building, Windows 10 | VentureBeat | Dev | by Emil Protalinski
PS.
Just run into this article and it answered at least some questions for me.

:)

 

Windows 10 Unexpected shutdown on start up

OK, so i figured it out myself

Found the logfile in "C:\Windows\Minidump".

You need the Windows Development Kit to open it and a bit of googling to understand it.

Found out that a Daemon driver caused an error. Removed Daemon but this didn't solve it. (ps: Daemon itself worked normally).

I let hibernate my computer again and found another error with sptd2.sys: SCSI Pass Through Direct layer

More google and ended up on the duplexsecure site. Downloaded the W10 version and voila: problem fixed.

For the Windows support team: It would be really helpfull if you could pass problems to a more skilled helpdesk who can do more than proposing the standard solutions in case those won't work.

Cheers

 

Windows 10 Unexpected shutdown on start up

OK, so I also found out that this occurs when sleepmode (for me after 3 hours) changes into hibernate mode.

Seems like the going into hibernate and/or starting up from HIbernate results in a shutdown. In safeboot it works perfectly.

Anyone any idea how I can figure out where it goes wrong. Is there a way to log this (I couldn't find it in bootlog)

 

Thanks. That is a very good read.

 

Hi there

Not wishing to be the "5th" player in a String quartet - but the idea of a continuing service has downsides as well.

If you are maintaining say 1000's of PC's in a large organisation Stability is what you need -- any one of the improvements might cause large expensive legacy apps (Say SAP ERP systems etc) to fail with disastrous consequencies for the business.

There really need to be TWO streams -- Long Term STABLE release and the "Service" idea. As a HOME user the service idea is OK as I can easily roll back if the update doesn't work or has bad side effects. (You all ARE taking regular backups I hope).

Ms doesn't seem to have a system whereby mass updates can be applied later in the cycle. I'm sure I.T admins don't need the hassle of checking out updates every few days, stress testing these - especially with Corporate legacy applications and then rolling this stuff out across a whole slew of PC's.

Cheers
jimbo

 

You have something there !
I too always felt there should be a strictly business editions of windows 10 just for medium and large organizations that can be administered by one person and one place with complete control of updates on all the computers in network. It was idea from first Win NT, business only, no frills.

 

The Enterprise edition allows you to control when and how all updates are applied: "Windows 10 devices in these mission critical customer environments we will provide Long Term Servicing branches ... while minimizing change by not delivering new features for the duration of mainstream (five years)"

Windows 10 for Enterprise: More secure and up to date | Windows Blog

 

According to:
"There also will be a Current Branch available to users of all versions of Windows 10 which will push all security, hot fix and new feature updates to customers once released by Microsoft. And there will be a Current Business Branch, as well, which will allow Windows 10 Pro, Windows 10 Education and Windows 10 Enterprise users to postpone new feature updates for some set period of time before they must accept them. Microsoft officials are not sharing more specifics about the Current Business Branch at this time, a spokesperson said."
Some Windows 10 Enterprise users won't get Microsoft's Edge browser | ZDNet
It is not exactly full control of updates even on LTSB.

 

IF you read the full sentence, that only applies to the "Current Business Branch" and not the Long Term Servicing branch.

CBB is available for Win10 Pro, Win10 Education and Win10 Enterprise... What they're saying is anyone on CBB can't postpone updates indefinitely as you can on the LTSB *Wink

 

What about this part:
"The LTSB is an option available only to Windows 10 Enterprise customers. Machines on the LTSB will receive only security and hot fixes, and no new features, for ten years. LTSB is an option for customers running mission-critical or otherwise locked-down applications who cannot risk having new features and feature updates pushed to them."
It clearly states LTSB and nowhere it mentions any voluntary installations.

 

It can be setup to use "Windows Update For Business". When setup like that the IT person picks and choses what updates get pushed to PC's and when if ever. Windows 10 Education has the same option for Schools, Collages etc.

 

Nice to know, not that I'm likely to get in that situation.

 

Hi there

Thanks for the info.

Note a lot of businesses who give employee laptops load the PRO rather than the Enterprise versions so I assume that the Long term maintenance stuff applies also to Windows Pro editions --- situation seems still unclear at present.

Also one would hope that New / replacement laptops bought say after 2 years would still be able to get the Original (unmodified original install from I.T admin) Windows version - otherwise during the currency of the program you'd have loads of PC's all at different levels of maintenance etc.

Business users are different from individuals who can decide to roll back something whenever they like.

Cheers
jimbo

 

Me neither, I'm currently running Enterprise but don't have access to Windows Update for Business. At some point I'm going to have a look at the Windows 10 Education version. It also has Windows to Go which is why I installed Enterprise in the first place. I have an MSDN subscription so I get to play around with the different versions.

 

Have a look here, Windows 10 editions - Wikipedia if its accurate Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows 10 Education have access to LTSB. I'm still trying to figure it all out myself. I haven't found any good links to actual Microsoft info though. You can still control updates even if not in LTSB. LTSB just means no new upgrades, no new features etc. That's how I read. Corporations have always had control over what updates get installed and when. If they have a corporate network setup etc. Enterprise, Education and Pro versions should be configurable to revive updates only from the corporate update server.

EDIT: Was looking at wrong row of chart Education is not LTSB.