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Discus and support windows 10 not showing computers in network in file browser in Windows 10 Network and Sharing to solve the problem; We've certainly seen similar problems. Some lists are short as the examples are. Some lists are long and have but one computer missing (seems like... Discussion in 'Windows 10 Network and Sharing' started by injaneb, Apr 22, 2017.

  1. fred3 Win User

    windows 10 not showing computers in network in file browser


    We've certainly seen similar problems.
    Some lists are short as the examples are.
    Some lists are long and have but one computer missing (seems like always the same one!).
    I have been told numerous times that NetBIOS "is going away" by 2020?. I'm not sure what ALL that means.
    Yet, Windows 10 continues to display a "NETWORK" list in Windows Explorer.
    If you elect to show "Discovery Method" as a column in the Network list display, then you will see either NetBIOS or WSD.
    Lately, I'm seeing lists of all Windows 10 Pro machines with 100% WSD as the Discovery Method and fewer problems so far it seems.
    Yesterday I saw a list with more NetBIOS than WSD by far (about 10 computers in a peer-to-peer network) and there are these kinds of troubles in that network.

    Something is clearly going on but I've not read anything to really explain it.
    For example:
    "If NetBIOS is going away then is that simply a protocol change in favor of WSD?"
    "If NetBIOS is going away and WSD is taking its place (in some sense) then does that mean that the Network list of computers is ALSO going away? Or not?"

    Some clarity would really help.

    There is a counter-argument:
    "You don't really need the Network list"
    I say: "BS" because there has always been no better, simple, way to know if the network is "whole".
    Sure, I can use NetScanner or some such tool but then I'm an IT guy. What about a more "normal user"?
    BTW, the "you don't need the list" is colored by the notion that "not all computers are sharing files NOR SHOULD THEY BE". So why does one need to see them on a list?
    It occurs to me that this is often true but isn't a complete picture.

    Once more: some clarity would really help.
    We are left with a vague allusion to the idea that the list is just going away. But the explanations aren't well articulated or justified. In the mean time, there are lots of users who rely on the list for various reasons that really should not be challenged as "old fashioned" should they?
     
    fred3, Feb 22, 2018
    #16

  2. I have taken to mapping by LAN computers so they appear in the Explorer file list. This safes typing \\COMPUTER1 etc on the Network Icon which is not a permanent fix.

    WTF are Microsoft up to beats me......
     
    Bootlebarth, Mar 10, 2018
    #17
  3. Danten Win User
    Microsoft recommendation to stop using SMBv1, and start using WS-Discovery:
    Stop using SMB1 | Storage at Microsoft
    works for my Windows 10 Creators computers.
    Set the Function Discovery PH and RP services to Automatic (Delayed Start) and Unmarked SMBv1 in Turn Windows Features. Restarted.
    That is it. Explorer Network folder populates with computer shares to browse.
    Printer Sharing is OK, also.
    On Windows 7 machines, set the 2 FD services, Stopped the Computer Browser and Disabled it, Restarted.Works fine.
    One computer was not showing-up in Explorer Network folder. Removed the Homegroup on it, as described here:
    https://windowsreport.com/remove-homegroup-windows-10/
    Stopping and Disabling the HomeGroup Listener & HomeGroup Provider services, the computer showed-up.
     
    Danten, Apr 2, 2018
    #18
  4. callmejoe Win User

    windows 10 not showing computers in network in file browser

    oh well. this didnt work for me at all.
     
    callmejoe, Apr 5, 2018
    #19
  5. callmejoe Win User
    i have the same issue with my networked PCs not showing up in file explorer. From all the searching i've done with google it seems that the last update from MS disables samba version 1 which network neighborhood relied on. the only solution that worked for me was to re-enable it. now i can see all the machines on my LAN. now i know SMB version 1 has been deprecated because of security issues so i would love to hear a better solution

    EDIT: just saw Danten's post. i'll have to try that
     
    callmejoe, Apr 8, 2018
    #20
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