Windows 10: Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week

Discus and support Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week in Windows 10 News to solve the problem; Does this issue only occur in VM installs maybe? I didn't read the whole other thread, just read the first few posts. Discussion in 'Windows 10 News' started by swarfega, Aug 6, 2015.

  1. Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week


    Does this issue only occur in VM installs maybe? I didn't read the whole other thread, just read the first few posts.
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 7, 2015
    #46
  2. Fafhrd Win User

    Remember that there are updates that take place during install, even clean install. Even if you do not ask for them, unless disconnected from the internet.

    I am not saying this is so, but the registry fix for the missing Preview menu item in File Explorer, the missing association of multiple image formats for Photo Viewer, just can simply be applied by running a small .reg merge file, and that could be done easily on an update at install time or any security update thereafter.

    That small piece of the registry, exactly those registry entries from Windows 8.1 (and probably the same back to XP, I have not checked!) can be run on an intact registry or one that has some missing entries, without prior checking that the registry has a problem, so it could be a blanket fix.

    I also do not know if Defender definition updates contain registry fixes, but I would be surprised if they don't, in order to eradicate damage done by malware that writes to the registry. The same goes for 3rd party antimalware or AV utilities. The difference would be that 3rd party apps may be later in receiving notice of registry changes that have a null threat rating, but a potential loophole for some as-yet unknown exploit.

    Having said that, I have "Windows 10 Enterprise Evaluation, Windows license for 86 days build 10240" from the TechNet evaluation page that has exactly the same photo viewer problem and exactly the same missing registry entries for photoviewer.dll that have caused the problem elsewhere:
    Code: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print] "NeverDefault"="" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command] @=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\ 00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\ 6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\ 00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\ 25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\ 00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\ 6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\ 00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\ 5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\ 00,31,00,00,00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget] "Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"[/quote] rather than the correct code:

    Code: Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open] "MuiVerb"="@photoviewer.dll,-3043" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\command] @=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\ 00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\ 6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\ 00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\ 25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\ 00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\ 6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\ 00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\ 5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\ 00,31,00,00,00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\DropTarget] "Clsid"="{FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}" [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print] [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command] @=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\ 00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\ 6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\ 00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\ 25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\ 00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\ 6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\ 00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\ 5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\ 00,31,00,00,00 [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget] "Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"[/quote]
    Media Creation Tool produces firstly a "Panther" folder, containing an xml "snapshot" of the system running the Media Creation Tool in order to make the upgrade on that machine for which it was intended as smooth as possible. It also checks the licensed key of the system it was run on in windlp.state.xml:

    HTML Code: <DownloadFileSizeX64>0</DownloadFileSizeX64> <DownloadUrlX86>http://fg.ds.b1.download.windowsupd..._138d74496ff2262811b4584824d4ae4573941e3a.esd</DownloadUrlX86> <DecryptionKeyX86>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</DecryptionKeyX86> <DownloadFileHashX86>138d74496ff2262811b4584824d4ae4573941e3a</DownloadFileHashX86> <TargetISO>U:\win10 downloads\Windows.iso</TargetISO> <ProductKey>VK7JG-NPHTM-C97JM-9MPGT-3V66T</ProductKey>[/quote] In this case run from a Pro version of Windows 10.10240.

    QED

    Note the download URL for the required version of Windows 10 to upgrade to, the decryption key for the ESD file, the filehash key and the product key of the windows installation it was run from.
     
    Fafhrd, Aug 7, 2015
    #47
  3. Joanne Win User
    On my clean Windows 10 Pro installation, in which the Photo App is removed, Windows Photo Viewer opens only .TIFF and .TIF image files. There is absolutely no way I can associate it with .jpg, .png, or other image file types. I don't mind because I use the Adobe Bridge.

    I have another Win 10 Pro installation, on this dual boot system, which is almost completely untouched. No tweaks, nothing uninstalled, I keep it as "virgin" as possible, wanting to use it as TP (insider), and to test how the new updates will behave. I have not tested yet IF on this one I can associate all the image file types with the photo viewer. I don't think I will be able to, though.

    Returning to the topic now, I am really looking forward to this Service Release! *Smile I still have a few bugs, like the Notifications Icon lighting up with no reason (nothing in the Action Center), the Mail App is still not functioning properly all the time and finally...the blurry text issue *Haha

    I also get a very fast alert from the Action Center, to turn my antivirus on. *sarc
    It disappears immediately and there's nothing in the Action Center, of course.
     
    Joanne, Aug 7, 2015
    #48
  4. Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week

    I hope they do.
     
    nigelmercier, Aug 7, 2015
    #49
  5. OK. looks like I got royally confused? I missed the distinction between Photo App and Photo Viewer. My default shows just the word Photo, which I took to be the Photo Viewer but its the Photo App. Now I'm on the same page. Whether its a bug or not that I'm not sure? One replaced the other right? And some code got left over? Sorry for the confusion and miss information. *Redface
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 7, 2015
    #50
  6. Fafhrd Win User
    I think it is developer code so that they could test the photo app without the old default Photo Viewer getting in the way.

    Replace it with the 8.1 code, and everything runs as we remember.
     
    Fafhrd, Aug 7, 2015
    #51
  7. Joanne Win User
    OFF TOPIC:

    I appreciate your post #45, just please sit back for a second and imagine the average Joe Dow struggling to discover why the Photo Viewer is not working as expected. I am the average Dowanne and I can reassure you it is a p.... in the a.... and it starts to become tiring to edit the Registry so much, and to have to learn the usage of the Group Policy, and...and...and...

    Anyway. Let's hope this Service Release will fix a few things.

    *Smile
     
    Joanne, Aug 7, 2015
    #52
  8. Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week

    How did you launch Photo Viewer in the first place? To even find out it doesn't work right? It's not listed under search, or anywhere in the Start Menu for me? Not on a clean install? It's completely MIA? Joe average computer user isn't even going to see it? What does it do that the Photo App doesn't do that you need it? Not trying to be a smart @ss, honestly want to know why its needed over the photo app. Other than some people refuse to use an App, for anything.
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 7, 2015
    #53
  9. Rocky Win User
    I apologize. I am one of the posters that said it worked for me with a clean upgrade, but the more I read about this issue the more confused I am. There are two different Photo Viewer apps I guess, and all I know for sure is that one of them works perfectly for me. I am not sure which one it is, nor do I really care since it works perfectly.
     
    Rocky, Aug 7, 2015
    #54
  10. Fafhrd Win User
    The thing is Joanne, Microsoft know that they have released a bag of worms - but it is a different bag of worms from Windows 8, Windows 8 is gone and good riddance, and you are far from the average Joanne Dowanne (luvvit!!!).

    You're right tho, it will fix a few things -probably not the ones that are bugging us tho *Sad

    Photo Viewer is a utility launched by right-clicking an image icon or entry in a folder, and select Preview in the menu, instead of opening the image in a single task, single image application. Then Photo Viewer will allow the user to cycle through all the images in a folder - very useful if you don't have the resources to have thumbnails everywhere to bog down your system - and then to edit a chosen image in MSPaint or your favourite default image editor, or to run a slideshow of all those images, or to zoom to enlarge an area, or pan over the image in high detail.

    It is a hidden Windows gem, known to a few for over 12 years, never seen by the 80% who don't understand right-clicks. Here's what it looked like in XP, on the same machine I run Windows 10 on:


    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week [​IMG]
     
    Fafhrd, Aug 7, 2015
    #55
  11. Joanne Win User
    I found the Photo Viewer after double-clicking on a .TIFF file. I do not like the Photo App. I do not like the way it looks, I do not like the way it functions. I preferred the Windows Photo Viewer and if I would have found a way to use it for all the image file types Win 10 supports, I'd use it.

    Now though I've installed Adobe CS6. It has the Bridge, which is a few light years ahead from the Photo App, I use Acrobat Pro for my .PDFs and the rest of the programs for hobby.

    What matters for me is that I ended up with a better solution, in overall.

    PS: one irritating thing I recall from the Photo App, the few times I've used it, is that it was not showing the ZOOMing level, anywhere! After pressing Ctrl-1 or Ctrl-0, do not recall, it was zooming at 100% but then...? Anyway. I don't care.
     
    Joanne, Aug 7, 2015
    #56
  12. Ok, if I right click an image, there is no Preview option, only Open or Open with. Open opens it with the Photo App. Open with gives me the option of Paint or Photo App. Photo App is my default so that's what's launched if I double click an image. I'll have to hunt up a tiff file, everything I have in my Pictures folder is BMP, JPG of GIF.
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 7, 2015
    #57
  13. Burgurne Win User

    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week

    I have upgrated 4 PC's in the family, 2 laptops and 2 stationarys. All went very well.
    On my stationary (a gamer-PC, former Windows 8.1 Pro), I then tried to do a Clean-Install of Windows 10 Pro. It went well, activated as it should, and I also got the PhotoViewer error. My solution was also this:
    Is Windows Photo Viewer gone?

    I only have 2 problems with the gamer-PC. No driver/software for my Logitech G25 (Logitech to blame) and an odd error with TotalCommander. Some of the files that opens with windows-programs (like Photo Viewer) shows just a white icon instead of the icon seen in Explorer. It is not all icon-associations, all Office365 docs don't have the error, but .tif., jpg,.mp3,.png amm.

    All in all, I'm pleased with Microsoft this time. My Windows is in Danish, and this RTM is therefore the first version I see in my own language, and the translation of the "deeper" places in Windows are much better than when Windows 8 first came out. Good job, Microsoft *Smile
     
    Burgurne, Aug 7, 2015
    #58
  14. Hm. seems to me the bug is with upgrade installs? Photo Viewer is still there only broken. On a clean install its not there and doesn't lunch by accident?
     
    alphanumeric, Aug 7, 2015
    #59
  15. Fafhrd Win User
    The reason how and why it's broken I explained here:
    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week - Page 5 - Windows 10 Forums

    Here is the fixWindows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week :photoviewerfix.zip

    Double click to open the zip folder and double click the Photoviewerfix.reg file.

    It replaces the broken Windows 10 registry entry with the working one from Windows 8.1
    The next step is to find the pictures folder and right-click a .png image
    in the open with dialog, choose another app,
    in the How do you want to open this file?, scroll down to More apps , select that, then scroll down
    and select Windows Photo Viewer, then check the tick box for Always use this App to open .PNG files

    Windows 10 Service Release 1 Inbound for Next Week [​IMG]
     
    Fafhrd, Aug 7, 2015
    #60
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