Windows 10: Windows 10 Users Rail Against Microsoft Bloatware

bloatware

noun

• software whose usefulness is reduced because of the excessive disk space and memory it requires.
  "a nasty piece of cross-platform bloatware that's in serious need of a total overhaul"
  • unwanted software included on a new computer or mobile device by the manufacturer.
    "users must initially contend with the usual bevy of bloatware (unnecessary toolbars, games of questionable value)"
  
  
  

Firstly, the windows stuff takes hardy any space up

Secondly, MS is not the manufacturer in most instances.

Things included as part of the base OS hardly counts as bloatware.

"If it is not OK with you when you get it with a new laptop then it is not going to be OK with you if you get it with your OS or AV Program" - this does not make sense. The base windows apps come with a new laptop by default.

Do you root all your android tablets and remove all the apps you do not need that are pre-included?

Do you do the same with Apple systems?

Whether apps are there or not, does not affect your control issues - this was not relevant to the bloatware discussion, which the post was about.

I do believe you should have the option to uninstall apps you do not need (some you can of course), rather than resorting to powershell commands etc., and upgrades should not reinstall them.

The key issue is not really that there is "MS bloatware" but that you cannot easily uninstall things you do not need.

It is quite reasonable to a supply a number of apps as part of the base OS, as for many users, they would not know about such an app if it was not visible. A 'minimalist' install option would be handy.

 

As stated in an earlier post, if you're unhappy with the very few, small, and sometimes useful apps installed with Windows 10 then look at your Android or IOS device. At least we don't have to "root" our Windows PCs to do what we want to do as owners/administrators. Google and Apple make you take extraordinary efforts to actually do what you want on their device, and then you still can't do many of the common things we take for granted in Windows.
My two cents.

 

I think you need to compare like platforms. I hate the bloatware on my iPhone because I have limited space. Vendors are coming out with limited space laptop's and 2n1's that mimic a chromebook(but are running Windows 10) The idea that you can install apps, so you can run offline. This is when the bloatware matters. When you measure your apps in Megabytes, and sometimes bytes, you only want what you need on those devices. If Microsoft isn't actually going for ALL devices with Windows 10 then yea, the apps that are included are no big deal. Since we know they do want all devices, the ability to uninstall all apps would be a huge differentiation from iOS or Android in that device space.

 

Last point is a good one. Even though it is a pain you can do it more easily on windows though. Stll big issue on tablets really is windows still takes up a big chunk itself of course.

 

Really?

Correct me if I am wrong, but those Candy Crush games are 'freemium' and in app pay to play/win.

The presence of these absolutely disgusts me and I will go so far as to say I firmly believe it should be illegal to describe or market such games as 'free.'

Microsoft should not be pre-installing such things at all. Everyone, especially parents, should have the right to block and refuse installation of this garbage.

 

Cannot disagree with that.

 

Strange, but I have 10 and I didn't get Candy Crush installed..

 

If it's a program that you didn't install the it's bloatware. Are we clear?

 

As crystal! *Wink

 

I don't know what prompts it to be installed, but on one of my experimental installations it appeared when I made the mistake of installing my LAN driver early on and hadn't yet disabled the automatic updates.

Also had a bunch of Minecraft stuff appear, more rubbish I've no desire to have on my PC :/

I really need to find out more about the options for (not) auto-updating drivers and programs. I was also stung by an automatically downloaded display driver. That's the sort of thing that users should have absolute control over, will MS updates ever overrider a specifically chosen older GeForce driver, or say Daniel_K drivers for Creative soundcards?

 

I did get an offer to install Candy Crush but I just put the don't show again and it didn't install. I'm just curious what happened in your situation.

 

No idea, I nuked the copy as I was more concerned with figuring out other issues. Right now I have a basic install of 10 waiting for me to add drivers and updates, when I do I'll have to pay closer attention to what is added and when.

 

That's a great idea and I hope you don't have any more issues.
Jeff

 

*Ditto*Ditto*Ditto*Ditto*Ditto

 

And don't want! *Thumbs